Guide on how to talk to children about Sandy Hook 4 days BEFORE massacre

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We need more duct tape to keep our heads from exploding.

In addition to the four memorial-donation webpages for Sandy Hook victims which were created one to three days BEFORE the massacre, here’s another pre-massacre document.

It’s a PDF document counseling parents and teachers across America how to talk to their children about the terrible shooting deaths of 20 children and 6 adults on the morning of December 14, 2012, in the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. The document, titled “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting,” is the work of an organization called Crisis Management Institute (CMI).

Based in Salem, Oregon, with just a P.O. Box address instead of a physical locale, Crisis Management Institute describes itself as follows:

“Our mission at CMI is to help schools prevent crisis for individuals as well as the whole school population, and to plan and prepare such that each small response mitigates the likelihood of a larger crisis growing out of the current situation.  By providing solid foundational materials and cutting-edge online updates, we aim to give all schools a range of resources with which to face emerging challenges.”

Some of the “resources” CMI provides are short (1-2 pages) guides in PDF format posted on its website, such as “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting” (henceforth abbreviated as “Talking With…”) that you can read for yourself. You’ll see that the PDF document does not have a date for its creation. However, when a document is uploaded onto a website, it acquires an Uniform Resource Locater (URL), which is a specific character string that constitutes a reference to an Internet resource.

Think of the URL as the Internet address of a website, or of an article or picture within that website. Or in technical jargon, “Every URL consists of some of the following: the scheme name (commonly called protocol), followed by a colon, two slashes, then, depending on scheme, a server name (exp. http://ftp., http://www., smtp., etc.) followed by a dot (.) then a domain name, a port number, the path of the resource to be fetched or the program to be run, then and an optional fragment identifier.”

For example:

And so it is also with Crisis Management Institute’s online documents. Despite the absence of a date in CMI’s PDF document “Talking with…,” there are other ways to ascertain when “Talking With…” was uploaded to CMI’s website. That date is December 10, 2012, four days before the Sandy Hook massacre. Here’s the evidence:

1. Arlington Red Devils site

The Arlington Red Devils (ARD) is the website of the Arlington Local Schools in Ohio. According to an article on Investor Discussion Board, an alert Internet sleuth posting on the chat site GodLikeForums.com, found a posting on ARD about CMI’s “Talking With…” guide, with a link to the PDF document. Here’s a screenshot the sleuth took of the ARD post. Pay special attention to the two yellow circles I’ve drawn on the top left and bottom right of the screenshot.

Arlington Red Devils

Inside the bottom right yellow circle I drew is the date when the sleuth accessed the Arlington Red Devils’ website: 1/10/2013 (January 10, 2013).

Inside the top yellow circle I drew is the URL of CMI’s “Talking With…” document with its date of 2012/12/10 (December 10, 2012), which is FOUR days before the Sandy Hook massacre:

CMI Talking with URL

Since Jan. 10, however, that Arlington Red Devils page has been scrubbed. If you go to http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-children-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy, you get sent to this page (http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/error) that says “Error 404 – document not found”. Good thing the sleuth had taken a screen shot of the ARD page on January 10, 2013!

2. The URL for “Talking With…” on CMI’s Website

But we don’t have to rely on the now-scrubbed Arlington Red Devils webpage. We can go directly to Crisis Management Institute’s website for its PDF document “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting.” Click here for the document. If CMI scrubs it by the time you try to access the document, I’ve saved the document in FOTM’s media library. Click here: Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-Shooting/

Look at the URL of the document. It shows a date of 2012/10. Here’s a screenshot I just took of CMI’s “Talking With,” showing the URL on top:

CMI Talking with

Notice the document’s URL on top, and in the bottom right, the date when I took the screen shot: 1/16/2013 (for January 16, 2013).

Here’s an enlargement of the URL for “Talking With…,” showing the 2012/10 date:

CMI Talking with

The Spanish language version of the same “Talking With…” document has an URL date of 2012/12 (for Dec. 12, 2012), which is two days before the Sandy Hook massacre.

One document or webpage bearing a pre-massacre date may be due to a computer glitch. But we now have at least FIVE cases (I know of a 6th, which will be posted tomorrow).

And so, we must now ask ourselves why Crisis Management Institute — like the people who put up the “R.I.P. Victoria Soto” Facebook page, the United Way “Sandy Hook Support Fund,” the Sandy Hook Elementary Victims’ Fund, or the Fundraiser for Families Involved in Tragic Newtown, CT Shootings somehow knew, days in advance, there would be a massacre in Sandy Hook Elementary School on December 14, 2012.

Oh, one more thing.

Crisis Management Institute’s director is a woman named Cheri Lovre.

Cheri LovreScreenshot of Cheri Lovre from a video she posted online, Dec. 16, 2012.

Cheri Lovre is an anti-gun gun-control advocate. Lovre posted an essay, “Talking About Gun Violence,” on a rabidly anti-gun site called Praying the Devil Back to Hell – HERE AND NOW!

This is below the website’s masthead:

Ban semi-automatic weapons and high capacity ammunition clips

pray the devil

And this is how the site describes itself:

We are people of faith, seeking to eliminate semi-automatic weapons and high capacity ammunition clips in our state, our nation, and around the world.  After the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, December 14, 2012, it is time for us to say ENOUGH!  There is no excuse for civilian possession of semi-automatic weapons or high capacity ammunition clips.  Our children will not be safe at school, in a mall, or in a theater until we take these weapons out of circulation!

H/t Investor Discussion Board

Update (Jan. 17, 2013):

Since this post was published yesterday morning, we’ve received many reader comments, some of which by individuals more knowledgeable about computers and the Internet than I am. They point out that CMI’s “Talking With…” PDF document actually was created on December 14, 2012, but for some reason was uploaded to their October 2012 folder (thus, the 2012/10 in its URL). Other commenters maintain that still doesn’t explain why the Arlington Red Devils’ page on the CMI document indeed was published on December 10, 2012.

Most helpful, however, is a comment by reader Peter. He points out that “It is very simple to change the creation date of any document” and provides how that is done. More importantly, Peter states that “To me the most damming evidence is the fact that the google cache shows that there was once a file called ‘talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy’ in the directory ‘www.arlingtonlocalschools.com[b]/news/2012/12/10/[/b]‘. There is no doubt that /2012/12/10/ means december 10th 2012. This directory structure is created automatically by wordpress when an authorized author creates a new piece of content such as the news item in question.”

Peter than counsels that a screenshot of the Google cache be taken, in order to preserve the evidence in the event Google erases it. So I went on the Google cache site and took this screenshot, which clearly shows the “Talking With” guide was published on December 10, 2012 — FOUR days before the Sandy Hook massacre:

Arlington Red Devils on CMI document

To conclude, I stand by my original assertion that Crisis Management Institute had created a PDF guide “Talking With Your Children/Students About the Sandy Hook Elementary Shooting” on December 10, 2012, four days before the Sandy Hook massacre took place.

In the meantime, here’s my post today on “Another Sandy Hook fundraiser that pre-dates the massacre.”

Update (Jan. 26, 2013):

Peter Offermann lent his Internet technical expertise to an anlysis of this. Here’s “How we know a guide on counseling children about Sandy Hook predated the massacre.”

~Eowyn

167 responses to “Guide on how to talk to children about Sandy Hook 4 days BEFORE massacre

  1. Wow it’s so hard to believe but the solid evidence continues to mount making it extremely difficult to deny that there’s more to this than meets the eye. Wow! Very scary stuff!

  2. Devastating information. Other than those two words, I am speechless.

    • Andrew Mackinnon

      Dear Charlotte

      I’ve read parts of your work about the dumbing down of the education system and I’ve seen you interviewed.

      It’s truly an honour to have stumbled across you on this web page. We are most fortunate indeed to have you alongside all of us. There are very exciting things happening right now, such as the following YouTube video titled, “The Sandy Hook Shooting – Fully Exposed”, reaching more than 9 million views in the last nine days with an approval rating of more than 80% since it was posted on 7th January, 2013:

      Charlotte, you are a tremendous source of inspiration to all of us and you embolden us with your perseverance over a long period of time.

      God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ.

      Sincerely

      Andrew Mackinnon
      http://www.stop-global-government.org

    • Charlotte, what an honor to see you here. Gives me a good feeling that I’m researching in good company!

  3. Has anyone noticed that the news media has stopped talking to the victims’ families? It seems as if the families’ role was complete as soon as the story was handed off to the government controlled media to abrogate the 2nd amendment. It’s like a relay race team was one purpose, crossing the finishing line before their opponents.

    • TD, I’ve been Googling around trying to get an “Official Report”
      Seems 2-3 days after shooting the media went dark. Everything is dated Dec 17-18 at the latest, other than blogs. Also notice they never talked to any one but the same 4-5 families. And no interviews with other parents.

    • Please don’t give up on this discussion. Big question: how can it be coincidental that Ms. Lovre calls for the banning of the AR-15-type semi-automatic weapons, and such anti-2nd Amendment antagonists achieve this on the heels of Sandy Hook already to a degree, then are involved in PDF social worker documents: all this immediately after Sandy Hook with no foreknowlege. Obama has dispensed federal monies to social workers for school shooting senarios. Is CMI a recipient?
      Arlington said (personal conversation) that they received the PDF not electronically but a hard copy, apparently in the mail. If this was only a Dec. 14 creation, how could they have gotten it fast enough? Then, I was directly told that the PDF was not uploaded but key-stroked in. How could all this be done by the 18th, if that is the new day being proposed?

  4. Great research Dr. Eowyn! Keep it up……these date inconsistencies could well be a chink in the armor of the “deceivers.” Is there a quick way to prove this sort of anomaly doesn’t routinely happen with all webpages? Do you know an IT expert who can speak about this?

  5. Why do you think “they” made so many slip ups? It is almost as if they gave us just enough info to let those of us who are so inclined to be sure it was a black op, but just short of enough information to convince most people…. Does that make sense?

    • Katy,

      I don’t think “they” intended those slip-ups. But now that they are wise to dates for online documents and webpages, no doubt they’ll be much more careful the next time!

      • lowtechgrannie

        I see the link to this story has been posted to Ben Swann’s Facebook page.

      • Terry Randolph

        Dr. Eowyn, This is fantastic! I have done a very small amount of work with creating website’s and uploading content and after seeing what you had posted with the url information I started thinking “surely there is some way to find out the exact date that content is uploaded to a person’s server.”

        After a little searching I found this http://www.labnol.org/internet/search/find-publishing-date-of-web-pages/8410/

        Step 1. Go to google.com and copy-paste the full URL of the web page in the search box along with the inurl: operator (e.g. inurl:www.example.com). Hit enter.

        google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.labnol.org/websites

        Step 2. Now go to browser address bar (Ctrl+L in Firefox or Alt+D in Internet Explorer) and copy-paste “&as_qdr=y15″ at the end of the Google search URL. Hint enter again.

        google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.labnol.org/websites&as_qdr=y15

        Step 3. Google will load the results again and this time, you’ll see the actual publication date of the web page next to the title in Google search results as in the above screenshot.

        After following these instruction’s google came back with this

        [PDF] Talking With Your Children About the Sandy Hook – Crisis …
        http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Talking-With-You…File Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat – Quick View
        Oct 31, 2012 – MANAGEMENT INSTITUTE. PO Box 331 * Salem, OR 97308 * (503) 585-3484. © 2012 Cheri Lovre, MS http://www.cmionline.org * cheri@cmionline.org. Talking With …

        I could be mistaken, but this seem’s to say that this content was uploaded in October, which would be the 10th month of 2012.

        I don’t know if this help’s but I thought it was interesting. I am sure you know more about these thing’s than I do .

        • THANK YOU, Mr. Randolph, for this info and valuable instructions!!!

          Actually, I don’t know more than you “about these things.” I’m just a humble citizen blogger who’s using her God-given wits to try to dig at the truth. My training and expertise are in political science, not computer science. :)

    • Robert MrTexas

      Intentional slips are part of a Psyops program in war, and in a case as this, would be a psyops to actually make those paying attention look bad, cold-hearted, to the rest of the world…it’s a good tactic if it is not used too often…Some of the slips may be intentional misinformation as well, hard to say…but the lack of facts, evidence, given to the public, the hiding of the warrants for another 90 days (why? purpose?) is odd, and their claim as to why doesn’t make sense…no scene photos, the front doors, claimed bullet holes in cars in the parking lot, etc…so little given out also has a way of inciting speculation that in the end, when done successfully, discredits those that see this, which in turn makes them, whomever “them” may be, look stronger….

    • It is not that “they” are technically compentent liars. Despite their planning they are often as we are seeing remarkably inept. The numerous fundraising sites created before the event, for example, could be attributed to simple greed. The issue is what sane healthy person would believe another normal person would lie about the things they lie about. The idea of the “big lie”. If someone says their 6 year old daughter was just horrifically murdered along with a classroom of first graders the normal first response is one of sympathy and anguish, not I wonder whether this person is lying. When you see all of the contradictions and holes in the narrative one is left with the disturbing question of whether there is a rogue element of government with significant resources that is to put it bluntly criminally insane.

  6. Dr. Ewoyn great sleuth work-you put investigative reporters to shame!!! Thank you for these most interesting posts. And for crying out loud will someone please step up and expose this incident! It’s no longer amusing when children are being targeted as is our 2nd amendment!! This is still America!!

  7. to be completely objective one must understand also that the url is a link to ‘a’ document, and not necessarily ‘the’ same document with the same content that is online now. i.e. my website can contain multiple documents and I can amend or replace them 24/7 as needed. what you see when you click on them can vary depending on when you access them.

    undersand also that my cynicism of most things that originate from federal government leads me be suspicious of them from the start. yes, i’m biased (a healthy skepticism imo).

  8. Regarding the Arlington Devils page, I went online and retrieved not only the original cached version of the page, but also used google to retrieve the first date that google first saw the page.

    See google’s first date for this page:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy&as_qdr=y15

    See the original of the page:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sFg-ITDrjT0J:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

    Here’s the question. Sure, maybe the google cache date is some kind of error. That’s plausible. But how likely is it that the erroneous page’s URL (which is probably automatically created by the Devils’ website’s scripts when a school authority posts a news topic) and the print on that page would both display the same erroneous date? So the slip-up was also happening at the Arlington Devils’ website at the same time. Okay, human error, plausible.

    I also followed up the YouCare charity funding pages that appeared before the massacre. Here’s the original of that page:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.youcaring.com/blog/archive.aspx

    The two charities close to each other, one about Sandy Hook and the other about another shooting, later moved up to a later date. At least by following the URL above you can see where they originally were.

    We’re to believe that it’s just a google slip-up of some kind, not from google’s own mouth but by way of a message allegedly from a google tech provided to us by the hands of the people who are defensive about all of this, the people who are making money from the massacre.

    So the same little slip-up was also happening on the YouCare site at the same time?

    • Wow. Thank you, Gabriel!

    • Gabriel, you have provided what actually should be considered the smoking gun. If, for instance Google did not have a true data-point that is dated the day before the school event in question there wouldn’t be much to this.

      So, despite the ability to alter the URL or content of any web page that can’t be said of the Google search result. That search listing of Dec 13 in Google, then adds weight to the argument that the other dates are typical and not in error.

      My advice, when presenting this evidence from now on is to “Lead with the Google Search Result!” Don’t accept their next trick, which will be to point out the issue of Time Zones, as not enough time between data centers would account for the resulting date in Google. We’re still talking about Foreknowledge, even if it was only down to a few hours.

      • Great work… I read Gabriel’s post but didn’t follow up on it after the WordPress Dec 10th creation date couldn’t solidly be confirmed.

        This is likely solid proof. I’m going to see if it is possible to get a time on that google record.

        It’s probably a good idea if a few people do a screen capture of the entry and keep it safe in a safe place.

        http://tinyurl.com/bc4f35y

  9. lowtechgrannie

    For the sake of our nation, if anyone reading this has a blog or a Facebook page, this information needs to be broadcast Far and Wide NOW!

  10. Can they change the date in DOCUMENT PROPERTIES when you right click the 2-page document itself? Because when I did that it said the document was created 12/14/2013 @ 9:56:07 PM…is this something that can be altered? Weird.

    One of the disciplines that is hardest to comply with at times is discernment, especially in the internet age where anyone and everyone can post their thoughts and ideologies for all to read. Who is telling the truth and who is not. How do we really know? Research, discussion and discernment eventually.

    In this instance, there are numerous factors that point to a staged/false flag event, in my opinion, due to the reactions of the media, government, parents of murdered children and the law enforcement department(s) handling this case. To me, they all seem to be acting in a way not consistent with people truly grieving and dealing with a tragedy of this magnitude. I am not a psychiatrist nor psychologist, these are just the feelings that resonate within me while watching them on TV. (The story is changing and evolving lake any script being written.)

    Again, just my opinion.

    It seems there are forces at work against this once great nation, and the last step before surrendering to these forces will be disarmament. So, defend your 2nd amendment as if your life depends on it, because it does. IMO.

    …”the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall NOT be infringed”

    These words were penned by men who had suffered through oppression and despotism and empowered us, as citizens, to never let that happen again.

    It is our right and duty to protect these rights, if we do not, we do not deserve the freedom they provide!! This is a time in history we are not only a part of, but are responsible for in our actions and and whatever they might be will certainly affect our children and theirs to come! Globally.

    Take notice, use discernment and fight for your country!!

    It matters immensely.

    • Indeed PJ, the creation date is part of what is called “Meta-data” or EXIF data, and with the right tools (see here for example: http://www.attributemagic.com/attributemagic-pro.html ) can be altered to read whatever. Despite what others may say, there is no “set in stone” data that can exist on a Computer, everything, given the knowledge level of a user, can be altered or modified, or removed. After all everything in the realm of the ‘net is simply, electromagnetic patterns. To my next point, Mr. Eowyn, if you can obtain/have such a tool, perhaps sifting through the meta-data of the pdf or other related files could prove… interesting?

  11. http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/
    This shows Dec 14 @ 14:00

    http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/
    This shows the “dates” are folders, not dates

  12. Tommypotatoes

    Although there are legitimate question to the events you are in no position to talk about URL. The 2010 is simply a folder on a web server and the 10 is a sub folder. There is no requirement that the folder name must be a date. If you go to the cmi website and remove the text, in the url, after the 2010/10 you will be taken to the folder that has the download with a modified date of 2014 at 2pm. If you have a screen shot showing any earlier time then I would like to see it. The problem with society is mis information, you need to be diligent in your facts. It’s bad enough the news feeds us bs.

    • If you’re going to scold me, at least get your numbers correct. It’s 2012, not 2010.

    • Robert MrTexas

      WordPress uses date for folder names, you choose these settings when setting up your wordpress on your website…they offer a variety of formats, but when you have 2012/10 and nothing else, in many cases, if it is wordpress, it generally would indicate year/month … unless WP changed some things in the past year, this has been how every version of WP I have used allowed me to set up URL’s, if I chose to, which I never did, prefer custom URL’s myself…so, the 2012 is not just a folder, it is a year, and in 2013, the 2012 will no longer be used with such settings…these style URL’s lend themselves to permalinks, which are links found on many dynamically created pages where they pull this from databases…easier and more efficient than some super long link with random characters, which is still used, but not so much as it once was…

    • Tommy aside from your rudeness, if you know of this subject would you mind explaining in a civilized manner? We try to be diligent with the facts.
      When we get new facts we will change the old one.

  13. The link to Crisis Management Institute’s physical address via the corporations division in Oregon :

    http://egov.sos.state.or.us/br/pkg_web_name_srch_inq.show_detl?p_be_rsn=823855&p_srce=BR_INQ&p_print=FALSE

  14. I recall there was non-stop coverage on the news channels 24/7 for several days. Yet there was not a single leak of a video surveillance clip or still. Did the perp blast his way in or was he buzzed in? Was his mother a teacher there or not? The saturation coverage was not warranted, but it did seem to sear the “proper message” into the populace. The performance of the medical examiner was beyond parody. Pathologists can be macabre, but …..please. How many shells of what caliber were found? Were they from a Sig-Sauer or a Bushmaster? Or both? He said “most of the wounds were from an assault rifle”. So it is implied that “some” were from hand guns. Would the death count have been much less without the use of the AR-15. Did the perp bring TWO to the school grounds since one was clearly seen being retrieved from the trunk of his car at dusk? Why all the secrecy?

  15. Some say That B*tch should be hounded, ridiculed, called, pelted with eggs and thats the appetizer.

    False Flag for gun control.

    Marxist B*tch

  16. It seems to me like the original plan was for the shooting to take place on the 10th but for some reason it was delayed and several fund raisers didn’t get the message.

    The creepiest thing I have ever seen in my life is the laughing dad that made a donation page immediately and then pimped the URL on national TV, while his daughter was supposed to be lying in a pile of bodies still.

    Thank you for your work.

    • In one of the youtube videos that shows the facebook page, if you pause it and read it, it says that the friends of the family are who started the page. Still doesn’t explain why it was started so soon, though.

  17. 2012/10 The number 10 is the directory not a date.

  18. They get caught out because they are liars but still the majority doesn’t have a clue. The majority we must assume aren’t interested in real world affairs no matter how much it affects them

  19. Er, I don’t think so. You can hack the URL to regress through the directory structure. The PDF Document description reads 21:56:07 14th December, (the document date on the file listing is also 14 December. There is a discrepancy – the upload date on the webserver is 14:00. (URL http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/) The 2012/10 in the URL is a directory, and not a content engine assigned date, as can be determined by snooping around the directory tree. The web server time being out is a potentially interesting one, but after a check through various PDFs, they all are timestamped approx 8 hours after the server upload time.

    This genuinely is nothing. But the Florida family stuff is amazing.

    • Robert and Jimmy Rizzo,

      Both of you claim that the 2012/10 in the URL of CMI’s “Talking with” document is a directory, and not a content engine assigned date.”

      Then why is it that the example I used of a post I did this morning on Fellowship of the Minds has this URL – http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/cutest-kitten-ever/ – wherein 2013/01/16 is the date when WordPress published the post instead of “a directory”?

      Please explain. Thank you.

    • Robert, we are looking for help on this so thanks for input. If what you say is correct then can you explain why all the sites have been scrubbed.

  20. Mister Pickles

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/daily-upload-dir/

    Go here to learn all about how WordPress handles upload directories using this structure.

  21. I’m not one to believe everything I hear, so I like to research it and find out for myself. Indeed the dates are before the shooting occurred. That’s a mystery and raises a lot of questions, especially when there are so many of them that show pre-dates, not just one or two. But here’s a quesition about the “actors” as parents and the teacher: If they are indeed actors, why wouldn’t someone from the school say, “I don’t recognize this person. I don’t know these parents or this teacher.”?

  22. Robert MrTexas

    Ok, for everyone wondering about the URL…here is an image that shows how WP (WordPress) formats the URLs as permalinks

    http://codex.wordpress.org/images/a/ad/permalink-settings.png

  23. WordPress permalinks suggest that /2012/10/ is actually October

    • It is actually a simple option to select within WordPress whether to store articles “virtually” within sub-directories by only month, or as deep as to include the day. So, everyone is correct in this regard.

      However, the ACTUAL EVIDENCE OF FOREKNOWLEDGE is in the analysis a few posts up where the gentleman runs a more specific search in Google. This results in Google’s original Cache of the page. On that page, is shown the corresponding URL of the cached page, the textual date in the articles header and (most importantly) the Google cache date of 12/10/2012.

      Being a follower of Google from a technical perspective, the likelyhood of Google recording the wrong date for a given page being cached is near zero. If a glitch of this kind were to have occurred, in only a few minutes as many as millions of pages would have incurred the glitch.

      Further bolstering the validity of this claim is the correlation of 3 other factors with Google’s data; the originating URL, the on-page date and the URL of the Red Devil’s re-posting.

      I had my doubts as well, that is until I viewed the above in total.

  24. Ruth Rothstein

    Police departments use them in hard to solve cases – a psyhic to help with this crime.

  25. If you go to a current news item on the Arlingtonlocalschools site you will see that it has the date embedded in the url exactly the same as the december 10th item in question. The date embedded in the directory structure also corresponds with the published date shown in the article itself.

    http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2013/01/06/school-safety

    WordPress and programs like it create these directory entries automatically when creating new content. The directory structure is used for posts and web pages indexing purposes. I’m not sure, but would guess, that the clock on the host’s server is used to set the date embedded in the directory structure. There is a very small possibility that the clock on the users computer might be used instead. This is easily checked.

    The only way the date could be erroneous is if the computer clock used was set wrong. The arlington site has an events calendar on the home page that displays the current date allowing people to find current events. If the clock on the host’s server was set wrong this date would also be wonky and all events would be dated incorrectly. How likely is that?

    I double-checked for myself that the google cache version of the news item is valid not a spoof. There was indeed an article by that name on that site that was created on December 10, 2012. Google didn’t see it until Dec 18th but that directory structure and file name did exist on the site on Dec 18th.

    • Peter, so you are saying there was a doc there on the 10th?

    • You can set your own date in the URL field. If you do not, only then does the software automatically import the current date as per the hard drive’s calendar.

      http://www.trumba.com/help/api/url_di.aspx

      • Looking into this in more detail I have discovered how an author of an item such as the news post in question could easily change the displayed directory structure and wordpress published date either intentionally or accidentally. This possibility must be added to the possibility that the server clock was wrong.

        There is no likely reason for doing so and the default settings would use the computer clock to set the date. There is an ability in wordpress content creation that could screw up an author so they do not realize what published date the document will display.

        The directory structures displayed in wordpress urls are virtual, they do not actually exist on the wordpress site. All they are is a record in the database that stores the site’s content. Each post and page is an individual record with its own independent url that only exist within the record as a text string of directories. WP can then use an sql index to order posts by date or any other combination which is much faster than code stepping through physical directories on a site hard-drive and cataloging the contents.

        Below is a capture of part of the editing screen an authorized wordpress content creator sees when adding a new item.

        http://oceanfalls.org/misc/wp006.jpg
        .

        You can create and save content on a wp site without the public seeing it by using the visibility toggle under “Publish” on the right. It can be set to Private, password protected or public.

        Below [Visibility] You can see the published date. I had just pressed [edit] for the date allowing me to change the published date after the fact. This would change the corresponding virtual url displayed by that document without having to change any directories on the site.

        I often work on material on a site for days before making it public. During that time I often preview the content to see what it will appear like to the public once it becomes visible. If during this process of preparing content I accidentally publish it without meaning to. The published date is set. I have accidentally done this, it is easy to do by just missing the (preview changes). button with the mouse.

        Afterwards even if you make the document private again the published date is set. From that time on wordpress leaves that published date alone even when editing the item further. It sees the edits as modifications not as publishing dates.

        For the date of 2012/12/10/ to occur the author would have needed to select to edit the date manually before publishing or the date was wrong on the server clock.

        If the date is correct it could easily have happened by accident by the author creating the document privately on or before Dec 10th. Working with it and accidentally pressing publish without realizing it thereby setting the publish date to dec 10th. no subsequent edits would change it even after making it private again.

        Later on december 14th the author could easily press [visibility]-[public] without glancing at the date assuming it would show Dec 14th as the published date.

        This scenario increases the possibility of it being an honest mistake but to me it is still highly unlikely. The author would specifically have to select to edit the published date and set it to 4 days in the past unless the server clock was wrong.

        Excuse the typos, I’m going to take a break as it has taken a lot to put this info together. It’s 5:30pm and I haven’t had breakfast yet.

        • Good grief, Peter. You haven’t had breakfast yet (and lunch and dinner)?

          Please go and get some food in your tummy. If I lived near you, I’d buy you YOUR dinner of choice and deliver it to your door!

          THANK YOU for giving so selflessly of your knowledge, time, and labor.

      • These toggles only apply to calendar items and have nothing to do with the url structure displayed by a wp page. They allow you to organize calendar items somewhat. See my post below on how an author could actually change the displayed urls.

  26. Seems like the devil is in these dirtbags.

  27. godlikeforums is run by the church of satan which are black magic sorcerors and wirches. the internet is a milikitary military mind control tool. jesus is lord. god bless you

  28. Thank you Dr. Eowyn for this incredible post, for your intense research and for setting forth facts that lead to more questions and doubts; eventually, because of people like you and your love for truth, we will find out what actually happened. All of the date inconsistencies and inequities show a pattern of a planned crisis.

    Notwithstanding the lack of honest to goodness grief not exhibited in the body language of the parents and those involved or affected, the sudden silence of no facts given to the public about this matter is noteworthy, definitely very strange and unlike the media.

    The implications of the questions are staggering!

  29. So what! Be happy that at least some christians have sense and are against semi automatic weapons! Violence always creates violence, havent you realy not learned yet?

    • Why are you presuming that owners of semi automatic rifles use them for violence? What about hunting knives? Aren’t they used for “violence”? Shouldn’t they be “controlled” and confiscated as well? Assuming you’re a Christian and you own tools of “violence” of knives, scissors, baseball bats, rolling pins, hammers, screwdrivers, and — GASP — handguns, SHAME ON YOU!

    • I’m against violence too. And my weapons, and every gun owner I know, have killed less people than Ted Kennedy.

      If an intruder, rapist, or thug tries to hurt me, my weapon will be used for self defense. Maybe the criminal will learn a thing or two about trying to hurt armed people.

    • Blowhard, as a good Christian then I’m sure you may have
      heard of Cain and Able.

    • truly clueless are you not! This is about tyranny NOT hunting, about keeping a government in check…….only liberals calling themselves khristians support banning guns ……sucks to be you………

  30. Just a technical remark:

    The document that you offer for download, i.e. the PDF file in your FOTM library, has been created on Dec. 14 some minutes before 10pm.

    If the PDF document provided by you is exactly what you downloaded from their site then either
    - that document was created on dec. 14 (and not dec. 10)
    or
    - whoever created that document had quite some IT know-how and the date that is normally stored automatically inside the document has been intentionally and professionally falsified.

    If you can *prove* that this (exactly this) document has been online before dec. 14, 9:56pm then those CLI people acted with criminal intent and you can prove it.

    Explanation: Typically computer documents have more than the visible date, i.e. the date that is e.g. written on a letter. PDF (like other formats like jpg, too) has internal fields (incl. a “creation date/time” field) that normally get filled in automatically by the software used (e.g. a PDF Editor). Those “internal” fields are usually not visible for the user and such easily overlooked when falsifying documents, pictures, aso.

    • Mr. Pragma,

      Please describe to us exactly how you find the “internal fields” of a PDF document! When I have a PDF document opened, what do I click, where do I look? Thanks.

      • By default a document you simply download off the internet using a browser will result in your copy having a creation date of the time you downloaded it. Most specialized download programs give you the option to leave the creation date alone and if selected the creation date remains as it was in the original file.

        • I double checked this to refresh my memory and find I am slightly wrong. The only time the creation date is automatically changed is when you use a command such as “file save as” with the document open.

          Example at http://www.oceanfalls.org/misc/creation001.jpg

          I opened a simple text file called “2013 january food order.txt” and used file-save as in the editor to save it to “2013 january food order copy.txt”

          * I could just as easily have saved it to the same name by copying it to a different directory under the original name. Windows does not allow two files with the same name in the same directory.

          The image shows the file properties of both files displayed by a more sophisticated windows file manager called xplorer2.

          The window on the right shows the original file was created jan 5,2013. It was modified and last accessed on Jan 12, 2013

          The window on the left shows the file was created, modified, and last accessed on Jan 17, 2013, the date I made the copy.

          Below is an example of the configuration of Internet download manager that allows you to leave the creation date the same as the original file on the server instead of changing it to the date it was created on your computer.

          http://www.oceanfalls.org/misc/creation002.jpg

          * I created and manage a few websites including wordpress ones.

      • Dear Dr. Eowyn

        That depends on the program (like PDF reader) you use. Many (most) of them do not show that “inside” information. Unfortunately, I can’t recommend a good PDF reader program to you, because I do not use Windows.

        On Unix (Linux, etc.) I used the “evince document viewer” and looked at the documents properties. While I’m not sure about which one, I’m confident that there are PDF readers for Windows, too that can show the PDF documents properties.

        Here is what I see:
        —————————
        The author is “Cheri”, the PDF has been created on Friday Dec. 14 at 9:56 pm CET, that is at 1:56 Pacific time, has not been edited/altered since, is in PDF 1.3 format, and has been created on an Apple computer using “Word”.
        ————————-

        Now, this does not mean that there was no such document published on dec. 10. It simply means that the PDF document that you offer here has quite probably been created on dec. 14 afternoon.

        I’m glad to help out a bit in “detective mode” and ask the question “How could this be explained and much effort would it be to create an *additional* version with an internal time stamp of dec. 14?”

        Assuming that there already existed a prior “copy” (actually rather the original) of the given PDF document, it would be extremely easy to create a “innocent” dec. 14 version. All “Cheri” needed to do would be/was to open the *Word* document again on dec. 14 afternoon and click again “Save as PDF” (or sth. alike) – et voila – she/he would have a “brandnew” dec. 14 version of the PDF.

        Of course, the reason could as well be that “Cheri” really edited or added some detail.

        In any case, for any reasonable investigation you need *both*, the (alledged) dec. 10 version and the one you have (dec. 14).

        One possibly overlooked trace I would follow is the question, if the document has really been created at CMI or if all those infos/documents at CMI were actually created/orchestrated elsewhere and merely given to CMI to distribute/publish it.

        Now, a little more regarding “time”:

        On a computer there are different kinds of timestamps. Basically they can be divided in 3 groups:
        - system time (e.g. a file’s creation time on disk)
        Those are quite (but not 100%) reliable and true/not faked.
        - “internal” time stamps in files (e.g. in a PDF file)
        Those are less realiable but usually correct as they are typically inserted by software.
        - “human” time settings/orders/stamps (e.g. in a web url)
        Those are not realiable and usually not maintained by the system or software but often mere organizational and comparable to other human ordering system like naming directories “Pictures”, “Movies”, and “Important stuff”.

        • You are correct Mr Pragma…

          Looking into this in more detail I have discovered how an author of an item such as the news post in question could easily change the displayed directory structure and wordpress published date either intentionally or accidentally. This possibility must be added to the possibility that the server clock was wrong.

          There is no likely reason for doing so and the default settings would use the computer clock to set the date. There is an ability in wordpress content creation that could screw up an author so they do not realize what published date the document will display.

          The directory structures displayed in wordpress urls are virtual, they do not actually exist on the wordpress site. All they are is a record in the database that stores the site’s content. Each post and page is an individual record with its own independent url that only exist within the record as a text string of directories. WP can then use an sql index to order posts by date or any other combination which is much faster than code stepping through physical directories on a site hard-drive and cataloging the contents.

          Below is a capture of part of the editing screen an authorized wordpress content creator sees when adding a new item.

          http://oceanfalls.org/misc/wp006.jpg

          You can create and save content on a wp site without the public seeing it by using the visibility toggle under “Publish” on the right. It can be set to Private, password protected or public.

          Below [Visibility] You can see the published date. I had just pressed [edit] for the date allowing me to change the published date after the fact. This would change the corresponding virtual url displayed by that document without having to change any directories on the site.

          I often work on material on a site for days before making it public. During that time I often preview the content to see what it will appear like to the public once it becomes visible. If during this process of preparing content I accidentally publish it without meaning to. The published date is set. I have accidentally done this, it is easy to do by just missing the (preview changes). button with the mouse.

          Afterwards even if you make the document private again the published date is set. From that time on wordpress leaves that published date alone even when editing the item further. It sees the edits as modifications not as publishing dates.

          For the date of 2012/12/10/ to occur the author would have needed to select to edit the date manually before publishing or the date was wrong on the server clock.

          If the date is correct it could easily have happened by accident by the author creating the document privately on or before Dec 10th. Working with it and accidentally pressing publish without realizing it thereby setting the publish date to dec 10th. no subsequent edits would change it even after making it private again.

          Later on december 14th the author could easily press [visibility]-[public] without glancing at the date assuming it would show Dec 14th as the published date.

          This scenario increases the possibility of it being an honest mistake but to me it is still highly unlikely. The author would specifically have to select to edit the published date and set it to 4 days in the past unless the server clock was wrong.

          Excuse the typos, I’m going to take a break as it has taken a lot to put this info together. It’s 5:30pm and I haven’t had breakfast yet.

    • It is very simple to change the creation date of any document. The simplest way is to just save a copy of the document to a different directory on a new date. The copy will have a creation date of the time it was copied. There are also utilities such as ‘FileDate Changer’ that allow you to change the creation, modified, and accessed dates of any file. Directly using a hex editor on a document allows you to do the same.

      To me the most damming evidence is the fact that the google cache shows that there was once a file called “talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy” in the directory “www.arlingtonlocalschools.com[b]/news/2012/12/10/[/b]” There is no doubt that /2012/12/10/ means december 10th 2012.

      This directory structure is created automatically by wordpress when an authorized author creates a new piece of content such as the news item in question.

      Although the google bots did not find and archive the file until december 18th, the directory structure recorded by google on the 18th confirms that as far as wordpress and the server the arlington site sits on are concerned that document came into existence on Dec 10th. The only way that directory structure could exist without some authorized person creating it is if the server clock of the site was wrong which is highly unlikely because there is an events calendar on the site’s main page that would display all the wrong daily events if the clock was off by 4 days.

      That google did not find the article until Dec 18th is not surprising. Their bots cannot be everywhere at once. They make the rounds of all the sites on the internet and that it takes time. The number of 4 days is quite interesting as it suggests how long it takes google to make the rounds.

      The google cache record is much more difficult to modify than internal document dates. Only someone authorized by google could do it. I haven’t checked yet today and that record may already be gone. If its still there at

      http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:sFg-ITDrjT0J:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

      I suggest everyone goes there and retrieves it and makes a screen copy of it which they keep in a safe offline place.

      If that record disappears or is altered it confirms that google is part of the treason.

      • A big THANK YOU, Peter!

        I just went to the link. Google Cache still has it, and I took a screenshot of it.

        I’m going now to update my post with this! :D

  31. Not that this is a great thing and probably shouldbt be telling this at all but my brother was caught by Feds yrs ago and the court docs referred to him as “the hacker” …so anyhow..we were just talking about altering dates on things so that no matter when you did it..you could change it to anything you wanted..in fact he knows how to do this. But you guys are are an awesome bunch with very good points and now I’m going to ask my brother what he thinks about all the crazy dates that dont add up. See if this could have been altered or not. I definitely think this is a story with to many holes in it and a way to get our guns away from us…I also happen to know that the only time they are getting my guns is when they pry them from my cold,dead hands:) but keep on posting because I love to read the new evidence!! Thanks guys and I will let you know what I find out!

  32. http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/
    this is the root directory you are looking for with date time stamps of when the content was modified

  33. Indeed, as noted a year or two ago a certain school district in Pennsylvania did purchase a number of shotguns and ammo, the DHS ran an ad hiring Pastors and Clergy for their detainment facilities, the DHS does issue advice and examples of what school districts may or might include in School Lockdown Policies in case of emergencies to Martial Law. And, the amount of fire-power that the DHS has recently purchased is quite distasteful as they tend to leak various documents or heresay on w in preference as to who they consider as worthy adversaries (Domestic Terrorists)….The Children, the un-armed as well as the weak of mind are needed sacrifices in attaining a complete and successful agenda. Yes, the end result of the use of Depleted Uranium, the never-ending Fukushima tragedy, the use of Corexit, most prescribed medications, Big Pharma, GMO products and etc all have one goal, The Reduction of the Human Population via a shortened life span, High Rate of Birth fatalities, Birth defects, Insanity and the lack of natural reproduction in Human, Animal and sea life…Government psychiatrist also have now included most Human Emotions as mental dis-orders in a revised handbook how-ever, it seems that they left out the lust for Greed , and Power or the unsatiable continuous and Incessant lustful wanting by a few who seek to control the minds of others… A confused or controlled mind will eventually lead to a Cold Heart resulting in a Lost Soul.

  34. great work uncovering this evil. She fits the profile of a bought an paid for devil. Let her prove otherwise at this point.
    http://hub.webring.org/media/content/58516031

  35. If this was pre-planned, are you saying that the children and teachers were actually killed as part of a plan towards gun control?

    • No. I’m saying no such thing. I’m simply trying to show that there are problems with the official version of Sandy Hook massacre. I have no idea what really happened, or who’s behind it, or whether or not anyone was actually killed, other than Adam Lanza, whose body was finally retrieved by his dad, weeks after the massacre.

      • So, Dr. Eowyn, do you think the funerals were staged? I don’t trust the current Administration’s agendas one bit, but I find it difficult to believe that 26 families “faked” the death of their children or other family member. Is it your contention that the “problems with the official version” appear to indicate prior knowledge of the event?

        • Anne,

          I repeat: “I have no idea what really happened.”

          What I do is ask questions. It doesn’t help that the MSM’s interest and coverage of the massacre stopped abruptly a few days after the massacre. Why aren’t they following up on this story? What about just the human interest angle: How are the victims’ families, especially parents like Robbie Parker and the Rekos, coping? How much donation did the various fundraisers for victims raise, such as the Emilie Parker Fund on Facebook?

          Please go to our “Sandy Hook Massacre” page for links to our other posts on this incident:
          http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/sandy-hook-massacre/

          As for whether the Obama regime is capable of conceiving and engineering a massive conspiracy, it’s instructive to know that there was a massive conspiracy, Operation Northwoods, which was planned by the CIA and approved by the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Kennedy administration. But Pres. Kennedy refused to sign off on it, so it was never implemented.

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

          • there are only 3 possible scenarios:

            1) some people are psychics and can envision events before they happen

            2) the entire incident was a hoax and no-one was killed

            3) there was indeed a massacre of children but it was carried out by an assasin team assigned to the job.
            “another day another dollar, boys!”

      • One article I read was that the body of Adam Lanza was claimed by an anonymous individual and it would not be revealed where they took it, probably to dump it in the ocean. So where did you read that it was retrieved by his dad?

  36. I don’t understand all the URL and tech stuff talked about here. Way over my head. But I do know that something stinks with this Sandy Hook story. Massive coverage for a week, then dropped like a hot potato! Mission accomplished!!!

  37. Check also Port Arthur Official story :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_Arthur_massacre_(Australia)
    How we know it was faked:
    http://www.whale.to/b/viallspam.html
    Dunblane official story :
    Dunblane school massacre – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunblane_school_massacreThe Dunblane school massacre occurred at Dunblane Primary School in the Scottish town of Dunblane on 13 March 1996.
    Dunblane was set up:
    Dunblane Exposed | A Tragedy Covered Up by the British …
    http://www.dunblaneexposed.info/
    Like 911 and 7/7, we do not believe that these people (Bush, Blair, Obama et al) are capable of such evil.
    But remember , US led sanctions in Iraq killed 7 X Sandy Hooks every day seven days a week, for ten years, over 500,000 children, and Albright says “we think it was a price worth paying”.
    If it gets all the guns out of American hands, then Obama and cohorts will again say : “we think it was a price worth paying”.

  38. The directory shows the document last modified 12/14/2012 at 14pm

    http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/
    Parent Directory –
    Activitie-for-Hurric..> 31-Oct-2012 03:15 131K
    GuideSchlSH2012.pdf 16-Dec-2012 08:45 188K
    GuideTchrSH2012.pdf 17-Dec-2012 09:15 95K
    Hurricane-Sandy-K-12..> 01-Nov-2012 10:22 136K
    HurricaneSandyGuide1..> 30-Oct-2012 13:39 140K
    HurricaneSandyGuide1..> 31-Oct-2012 09:33 144K
    HurricaneSandyGuide1..> 31-Oct-2012 09:35 144K
    HurricaneSandyGuide1..> 31-Oct-2012 09:37 144K
    HurricaneSandyParent..> 30-Oct-2012 20:09 98K
    HurricaneSandyParent..> 31-Oct-2012 09:31 97K
    HurricaneSandyParent..> 31-Oct-2012 09:39 97K
    HurricaneSandyParent..> 14-Nov-2012 09:38 97K
    HurricaneSandyParent..> 01-Nov-2012 09:21 97K
    NaturalDisasterGuide..> 30-Oct-2012 13:40 69K
    Sandy-CopeWithHurric..> 31-Oct-2012 09:29 100K
    Talking-With-Your-Ch..> 14-Dec-2012 14:00 84K

    It would be interesting to see a creation date though. Shown date is last modification date. Unfortunatly this server does not allow anonymous access.

  39. One more thing: the shootings took place 12/14/12 at 10am.

    How credible is it that within six hours of the shooting this institute publishes this two page document? Also the timestamp is 14:00 exactly. This could indicate the timestamp of the document was set manually.

    I find this highly suspicious to say the least. Again, the creation date on the server is key here and the only way to check this is to have server access.

  40. My thanks for your research – it’s all very fishy, to be sure. We’re making a point to follow up on a few of the discrepancies – our first look includes a link back here:

    http://opinionstink.com/something-fishy-about-sandy-hook/

  41. Great work. Except that I have to disagree the Talking to kids pdf was created 4 days before the event. Here is how I know
    I am no computer or wordpress expert, but I know quite a bit. If you look at how they structure their uploads you will see that they file them by year and month. So why the Talking to Children.. pdf was filed under the month of 10 (October) I don’t know, but you will see what I mean if you go to their index page of http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012 you will see 08, 09, 10, 11, and 12 with all the other documents and/or pictures they have uploaded for each month. For the month of 10 (October), mostly have to do with Hurricane Sandy. BUT you will find the 3 Sandy hook pdf’s in there as well. If you click on the one about Talking to your children the pdf will load. You will then be able to right click on the document and then click on “Document Properties” It will give you a Date created and a date modified. In this case both of the dates are the same of December 14, at 9:56 pm. Typically that time stamp is the user’s computer time stamp and not server time stamp.
    Anyway, the point is. They created a document on the 14th of December and uploaded it to the October file folder. May seem suspicious, with all things considered, but in this case it is what it is. I know this conflicts with the Arlington Red devils page, so there is no explanation to that. Unless they had a document up and then replaced it with the current one. That will cannot know for sure. But there is a chance that that may have happened. I just know you cannot change the Date Created and the Date modified in a PDF file. Hope that helps.

  42. Hi, my name is Brant, and I am CMI’s web developer… I’ve been away from work for a few days (just had a baby on Monday).

    I can assure you that CMI produced the document days after the incident, and in the rush to get content up and online to help people, Cheri uploaded the PDF via a file management plugin, and that folder (which already existed since Oct, was chosen as the place to upload it to.because that was easiest at the time. No conspiracy intended!

    You’ll notice that none of our other pages on the site use the standard WordPress URL scheme, that of using the month and date in the URL. The exception to that is for file linking, most people do not even notice the URL and I didn’t think that anyone would jump to these conclusions. I am sorry.

    You are welcome to download the PDF, open in Acrobat Reader, click file, properties and see the exact time it was created (it’ll even tell you Word made it)

    Just so you know this is true.. I am taking a screenshot of my making this comment, and uploading it to the same folder. Here:

    http://www.cmionline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/comment.pdf

    Hope that puts it to rest.

    - Brant

    • Thank you, Brant, for taking the time and trouble to communicate with us.

      I really want to believe you, but my question is:

      How then do you explain why Arlington Red Devils (ARD) referenced the CMI document on Dec. 10, 2012 — 4 days before that document was uploaded to CMI’s site? ARD has since scrubbed that page, but Google cache has it:

      .

      • Well, I can see that their URL appears to say that the article was published on the 10th. As the date IN the article has the 10th too. The Google cache though, if you read that top line: “snapshot of the page as it appeared on Dec 18th”. What must have happened is that the date on the server on which they run WordPress was wrong. When they wrote and hit publish and the article showed up (that date line (and the URL structure) is automatically added by WordPress based on the date the server thinks is correct) – they probably noticed, or someone else noticed the problem and they fixed it. At least that is what I would have done.

        If the Google cache said it was a snapshot of the page before the 14th, then things would be different (and time travel would be possible :)

        I can tell my web server its 1995 if I want, and load up WordPress on it and start publishing articles about Windows 7, or the iPhone – doesn’t mean I knew about those things before they happened :)

        • Thank you Brant,
          This helps answer questions about this one time discrepancy you had personal involvement with. There are a few more documents with odd dates that remain unsolved.

      • Very good question, Eowyn.

    • The server appears to be in the Pacific time zone and Ceri’s other pdfs in the http directory you offered have create times that seem to match their file upload time in the directory (The PDF modify timestamps usually precede by a few minutes the file timestamp on the http direcotry). But the modify time on the “Talking with …” PDF is almost 8 hours AFTER the file upload time. File upload … Dec 14 14:00 vs PDF modify … Dec 14 21:57 . Are you certain that the pdf timestamp was not altered? How did it arrive on the server 8 hours before it was created?

  43. What Brant says is possible but highly unlikely because the event calendar on the sites main page which is likely used a lot would display the wrong date. Todays events would show events from 4 days ago.

    The image below shows how to change the created date of the PDF file Brant just made available.Iam using the hex editor in Ultraedit to access the file. I typed “2013″ into the search box and found the dates. I could now change the date in either the hex or text translation and save the file. It would then display the dates I entered.

    .
    http://www.oceanfalls.org/misc/pdfdate005.jpg

    • Thank you, Peter! :D

      • Yes, of course it is possible to change modified and creation dates… While I don’t claim to know anything outside the scope of CMIonline.com, I can tell you that Cheri spent the day creating that PDF (it was a busy day for us, as you can imagine) in between counseling via the phone and teleconference. We didn’t change any dates, and all we did “wrong” was put the PDF in a folder that looked like a date that had past.

        As for the Red Devils site, I can only ASSUME that the server date was wrong when Google crawled and saved that cache entry. They fixed it and now all is correct. Once the server time was fixed, the events should have been fixed also. But again, I can only speculate on what happened on their site. HOWEVER, since they linked to our page/file (which was only up after the incident) it HAD to have been sometime after the 14th.

  44. Brant, How did the “Talking with children…” pdf file land on the server 8 hours before it was created. None of Cheri’s other uploads show an 8 hour time differential (in the wrong direction) from the server. It appears (based on the pdf create times for other pdfs in the directory you linked) her host is in Pacific Time just like the server. Are you sure the create time on the “Talking with…” pdf has not been modified?

  45. Doing a whois http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/arlingtonlocalschools.com to find details about the server returns….

    Arlingtonlocalschools.com Server Details
    IP address:
    184.106.51.33
    Server Location:
    San Antonio, TX in United States

    That the server is in Texas instead of Ohio means it is likely hosted on a server farm rather than on a local individual server dedicated to just arlingtonlocalschools. Such farms can and often do host 10s of thousands of websites within the same software environment. In this instance all the other site’s dates would also be wrong with one possible exception.

    If they have a virtual private server or dedicated server they would be able to change their date independently. On shared hosting the webmaster cannot change the system time, only the time offset for a specific timezone which is a fairly complex process.

    http://support.hostgator.com/articles/hosting-guide/hardware-software/can-i-change-the-server-clock-or-time-zone
    http://forums.powweb.com/showthread.php?t=83602

    If they are paying for an expensive private server it is highly likely they are using it for more than just hosting a website. Things such as online grades and/or attendance databases which allows teachers and authorized others to enter student records., internal and external mail services that employees can access from their classroom of from at home using a VPN. If the server date was the same as wordpress demonstrates all other applications running on the server would also record incorrect dates.

    If they have dedicated hosting for sure they have a professional managing their system. That person would have to go out of their way to change their system clock. Most clocks are set to automatically and regularly sync with an online clock using NTP protocol.

    http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/its.cfm

    That a professional would mess this up is highly unlikely.

    The google cache date of dec 18th showing a creation date of dec 10th means that the system date was possibly wrong for at least 4 days. Knowing what I know I would say that is extremely unlikely if not impossible.

    Put together with all the other highly unlikely public information surrounding this event I am unwilling to give the authorities the benefit of doubt. As far as I am concerned there is something fishy with the government and media’s version of what happened.

    • I agree with this ^^^ , but it doesn’t mean that the server date / time was wrong for 4 days, just that it was wrong for some amount of time (off by 4 days) and during that time the cache was created.

      I agree that it’s unlikely, but something obviously happened, and it was a technical error. It had to be, because I am personally involved with Cheri and CMI, and she wrote that doc after the incident, and I helped her put the resources page together. And since they linked to our content about the shooting, which I KNOW wasn’t in existence before the incident (why would it???), then something happened on their site.

      This is about as much as I’m going to put into this, I’ve said my piece – I was going to suggest to get in contact with the admin of the RedDevils site and see what happened, but I have a new baby to help with and (to me) it seems silly to do all this forensic work for something I know to be true.

  46. Brant Walsh is full of it. Every single server that’s connected to the internet is also connected to an internet time server. Since WordPress publishes nothing but blogs, it would be absolutely imperative that all their servers be set up this way. The chances of any of these servers being manually set up for times/dates is just about nil.

    And your correspondent Peter beat me to the punch when he showed exactly how you can alter any aspect of any computer file using a hex editor. I use such an editor all the time to rescue corrupted files. Date Created and Date Modified mean nothing to someone who knows what he’s doing.

    Also, notice how Mr. Walsh offloads the blame for uploading the file to the wrong folder to the unexplained “Cheri.” Implied here, of course, is: “dumb blonde.” While he himself was away “having a baby.” Aw, sweet. Classic emotional misdirection. Any amateur conjuror could do better.

    Why did these people make so many mistakes? Because they genuinely believe that the rest of us are just dumb animals, nothing but beasts of burden.

    Want to see who’s holding the (real) smoking (long) gun? Look here:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/01/16/obama-gun-address-misses-real-terrorism-threat/

    Anyway, I’m glad I was able to help in a small way. Keep up the good work, for God and the Republic. I may be an Irishman, but I’m a human being first.

    • Thank you, David! It’s important that people like you and Peter who know more about computers and the Internet than I do, speak up. I’m grateful that you did! :D

      • You can host wordpress blogs on hosting other than wordpress. This is the case with the arlington site. I myself host several wordpress sites outside of wordpress’ official hosting.

        That said… David is correct that if the site is hosted on a shared farm such as wordpress’ official blogs the webmaster cannot change the farm’s date because it would affect all the other sites in the shared environment.

        All the webmaster can do is create a time offset for a specific timezone. I have never bothered to do this because the end user’s computer will automatically show their specific offset date / time according to how they have set it in windows regardless of what zone time the server is using. I manage sites in several timezones and syncing to all the servers is not possible.

        The only time I need to be careful is when I am FTPing/uploading/downloading files on sites. There is some automation in FTP programs that I use that allows me transfer only files with a more recent date time. My main hosting is +2 timezones from where I am. If I edit a file on my computer at 9 am and upload it, the copy on the server will show a creation time of 11am. If the file doesn’t work correctly and i edit it at 9:15am and then do a bulk download from the website directory, the version edited at 9:15am would be overwritten by the older version from the website because my computer interrpets the site document’s time of 11am according to my clock and sees it as being newer than the new one I just created created locally at 9:15am.

        This has happened to me and it is very frustrating when you screw up like this. You usually have to redo often complex code. You try not to do it often.

        As David says… Even on a dedicated server where the webmaster can change the clock, the default settings sync the server’s time to an online NTP time server. This can be overridden by the webmaster but it is not easy and there is no reason I can think of to do so. The most the site manager is likely to do is to add a time offset to sync with a timezone they prefer. In using a time offset the most the clock could be off is less than 24 hours.

        Thank you for your input Brant. It would be worth our contacting the webmaster of the arlington site but even he would not be able to prove definitively that a glitch caused the error. All we would have is his word that a technical glitch caused the problem. That means no more than my word that it is highly unlikely.

        In such cases we need to make a judgement call and decide who we believe. Personally I have seen too many lies and evasions from our government and mass media to give their representatives anything other than minimal credibility. I think there are many people that feel the same as I do.

        This is becoming a major crisis for those grasping power as known liars and cheaters eventually lose all credibility. In my perception from situations like this and personal experiences that most would find as incredible as this situation, our leaders have 0 credibility left at all.

        Given the choice of believing their word without proof or choosing information that is in plain sight which overwhelmingly suggests wrong doing on their part, I would absolutely choose to believe the available suggestive information rather than their word.

        What I take away from this discovery is that we will see what the government’s intent is sooner rather than later. At the rate their credibility is going down the tube they must consolidate their power in the near future before they hit zero with a significant portion of the population. In my opinion that point of no return for them is within months not within years.

        Personally I think we will then discover that our worst fears are true.

      • It’s my pleasure to serve our Divine Creator, humanity, and the truth. If you want to see evidence of still more fakery, watch this short video:

        And if you really want to know what’s been hidden away from your sight for almost 200 years, and why, please read my website. It starts by telling the monstrous story of what happened to me after my mother’s death, but that’s not important – the sections you need to read start here and proceed in sequence:

        http://www.delusionalinsects.com/styled-40/index.html

        God bless you all.

  47. Sorry,

    but without something solid and tangible (like the alledged dec. 10 PDF file) you have nothing in your hands.

    I don’t know WordPress but I know (and actually wrote myself one) about CMS (content management systems). Usually any dates in a url are nothing more than simple mechanisms to support us humans to keep things in order. In terms of proof they mean basically nothing.

    Actually it is a common feature for a CMS to allow editing the “date”. Usually the date field is simply filled in by the system when left empty and kept that way. Sometimes, however, something must be changed or edited or whatever.

    So, *no*, whoever at arlington school created/edited that famous “dec. 10″ article did *not* need to fiddle with the system time. It seems perfectly reasonable to me that that person – after all, a lot of innocent kids got killed that day – was simply stressed and quite probably not the person who usually does the editing there. So, not experienced with the “web system” he/she saw a date field and entered the date – wrongly.

    Whatever the date entered for some article is also the date under which it will be filed in the CMS and seen on the internet.

    There is an important principle: Don’t make things more complicated than necessary. Based on 25+ years of experience I’d like to add: and don’t underestimate the “stupid” errors humans make, particularly when stressed, unnerved, unexperienced, confronted with something new, aso.

    In that sense it strikes me that the ’4′, the ’1′ and the ’0′ are in a vertical row on the numpad.
    To enter “14″ one would type ’1′ followed by the digit *above* the ’1′. Clicking the digit *below* the ’1′, however, would yield “10″ – et voila, there you have the simple solution for the riddle. And one that looks by far more realistic to me than people using an apple computer fiddling with system time, ntpd and whatnot.

    Don’t get me wrong! I’m pretty certain that something is utterly fishy about that whole Sandy Hook tragedy. I merely say that *this* (the arlington school url and google cache) is not the nail or the smoking gun we’re all looking for.

  48. If you go to http://www.pdfsearchengine.org and do a search for “Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary-Shooting.pdf” you will see on the search results a title:

    “Talking to Children and Youth About the Shooting – NYC.gov”

    and you will see the URL address:

    http://www.nyc.gov/html/acs/downloads/providers_newsletter/dec12/Talking%20to%20Children%20and%20Youth%20About%20the%20Shooting.pdf

    Notice that this is an official .gov site and the date tag says /dec12/ not sure if that is dec 12 2012 or dec 12th month??

  49. Also if you just do a search in google for “http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-children-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy”

    You will see the first result is dated Dec 13, 2012
    Talking with your child about the Sandy Hook Tragedy – Arlington …
    http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com › NewsShare Dec 13, 2012

  50. A web developer / system admin

    URLs have NOTHING to do with document creation times WHATSOEVER. Period.

    • Oh yeah? Then explain to me why the URL for this post, “Guide on how to talk…,” which was published on December 16, 2013, has the date of the publication in its URL:

      http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2013/01/16/guide-for-how-to-talk-to-children-about-sandy-hook-pre-dated-the-massacre/

      • It appears this thread has run its course. I’d like to sum up my conclusions for those that have read this far.

        Although I could go on with a long-winded technical explanation demonstrating why the possibilities that Brant has raised are highly unlikely it is obvious at this point that there is enough technical wiggle room that this situation cannot be demonstrated to be a smoking gun.

        I am still extremely suspicious of this occurrence and would rate it at a 65% chance that there was wrong doing here to a 35% chance it was an innocent mistake.

        In case it might help others gain more clarity about their lives I would like to share a little bit of information about my personal response to the state of our society before I leave.

        I think it is a mistake to assume we need to prove our leaders wrong in order to justify our own desired lifestyle which is obviously greatly at odds with theirs. Such a battle over who’s right saps an enormous amount of energy we could apply to much more constructive use if we weren’t constantly provoked into confrontations, most likely created intentionally to keep us busy in a conflict where our leaders hold all the cards.

        Personally I made the decision two decades ago that I wanted nothing to do with the direction our society is heading. I then decided to turn my comfortable life upside down and attempted to build a life that didn’t require me to participate in what I then called the rat race.

        I believe in providing for myself and did not want to leach off the society I was condemning. My attempt at self-sufficiency has mostly been like riding a bucking bronco but I have survived and now live very well in an alternative lifestyle which is now just slightly dependent on the infrastructure and economy our society has built. I continue to strive towards the point of zero dependence and zero contribution towards funding the abusive power structure that is destroying our world.

        As long as we continue to work within society, even if unwillingly just to survive, we continue to fund and enable the power structure that abuses us. Those in charge could care less how much we whine and complain about being abused as long as we continue paying taxes and consuming the output from the leadership class’ factories.

        It is not easy to attempt to break out of this abusive cycle, and there are no guarantees you will succeed if you try, but I believe it is the only way to force our will on our rulers.

        No taxes and only a trickle or no consumption will soon put them in their place or force them to show their hand clearly enough so everyone will understand what is actually going on.

        It is still not illegal to refuse to work or consume. However it is difficult to get to the place where you can do this. It takes accepting great risk and sacrificing things that we assume are essential to our well being. My experience has shown me that those sacrifices actually lead to far greater freedom and satisfaction. Those things we are taught to think are essential to living a good life are actually boat anchors that keep us chained to the system that enslaves us. Life without feeling the need to amass ‘things’ is like floating freely on a wondrous sea rather than being anchored to a murky bottom.

        I intentionally minimize my income, or requirement for it, to as close to zero as possible. I have succeeded to a very large degree and it has allowed me the freedom I have always dreamed of. The work I do now outside of providing for myself, mostly without money, is done for free or minimal related expenses. I do not need to work, I work when I feel the projects I choose to help enable will help bring about a better life for everyone. It does not require a large bank account to achieve this. It only requires the determination to create a viable lifestyle that allows such freedom.

        When I first decided to leave society I assumed all the bad stuff I felt I couldn’t put up with was accidental and inevitable in a large group and in order to be free myself I had to allow others to make their own choices even if I didn’t agree with them. My attitude then was live and let live.

        Sadly in the last decade I have realized there is a segment of humans that are not satisfied with live and let live. They need to bend other to their will and purposes in order to be satisfied. This group has gathered enormous power and the world is not large enough to hide from them even if you desire to.

        The only reason I keep popping back into society publicly is to attempt to do my part in resisting those that insist on abusing their fellow humans. The power they hold must be removed from their hands before the majority of humans can hope to experience equality with others. Such a transition won’t be easy because the abuses of our elite have created many humans with destructive tendencies. They were needed by them to justify the need for government forces to supposedly keep the peace.

        If the power block is defeated individuals and local communities will need to deal with these destructive people without the aid of centralized government. It won’t be easy to start with but in my opinion it is the only way to create viable communities. Consequences to individuals for destructive actions need to be immediate and local, not dependent on law enforcers ruled over from a huge centralized and distant bureaucracy that have the opportunity to anonymously abuse the power they have been given and then use the law to enslave rather than to protect those it is their duty to serve.

        In my opinion the power elite’s intent is to destroy national governments. They intend this not to enable local communities but to further centralize their power to the global level. Under Global governance they will have even more power as well as being be even more unaccountable to their fellow humans. Life under such a system will literally be hell.

        I could easily just let the world go its own way and live out my life comfortably but I realize doing so is to abandon those less fortunate than myself. I feel an obligation to help those that desire a more equitable society and will continue to speak up as I see fit even as it again risks losing all I have achieved.

        I wish you all well. Keep standing up for your rights. Thanks for providing me the opportunity to speak my mind.

        • Getting that deer in the headlights feeling again…

        • Peter, I’d like to thank you for your clarification of the lifestyle you’ve chosen. You have my utmost admiration and respect for your choice, as well as for your integrity, honesty, and highly developed sense of fair play.

          People like you are not common enough in this world. I have a very strong sense that you’re deeply aware of the long-hidden truth about our Divine Creator, humanity, and our place in the universe.

          It’s a great privilege to have crossed your path.

          Namaste, and much love and light to you.

          • I second that.

            Thank you, Peter, for giving your time, expertise, and thoughts to FOTM’s readers. I’m sad to see you leave.

            God bless and God speed on your chosen path, and may God have mercy on all of us.

            • Peter, God speed, I feel privileged to have crossed paths with you.
              Enjoy the rest of your journey.
              Steve

              • Thank you everyone. The privilege was mine. There are many good people here.

                I am a recluse at heart and struggle to be public.

                I have been intensely involved in forums and blogs like this one for about 12 years. I have started a number myself that have been left in good hands. My experience has shown me that my ongoing presence in forums is too disruptive even in forums I manage.

                As you probably know true freedom of speech does not exist on the internet. Everything is watched by those in power who control the internet infrastructure just as surely as they control the mass media.

                Many worthwhile subjects are ‘allowed’ but whenever anyone broaches subjects that threaten their control they will covertly or overtly destroy conversation in such venues in order to protect themselves.

                Their methods are very destructive emotionally to those affected. I tend to attract their attention regularly. Even in forums I managed I have not figured out how to deal with their destructive methods without becoming just like them. I am not willing to go there. I do not want to be responsible for destroying forums doing worthwhile work.

                I do still spend an enormous amount of time on the internet researching with the hope of finding a way to help resolve the issues we are dealing with. I share whenever I feel I have something worth sharing. I do so by occasional brief conversations in a variety of places. No doubt I will be back here occasionally.

                I am optimistic that our time will come. I just hope at that point we will remember how it feels to be under someone else’s thumb and not resort to the same methods out of vengeance. We would then just replace our oppressors rather than outgrow them.

                I have no respect for our leaders but I do not hate them or envy their power. They are actually the weakest among us and are to be pitied. Their obsessive collecting of earthly wealth and power gives them no peace. Rather, the more they gain the more they have to fear losing. Their massive armies give you an idea of how fearful they are.

                I do intend to help remove their ability to abuse others but do so based on my own morality not theirs.

                I came across a great piece of wisdom a while back that went something like this. “Forgive them not for what they have done to you, instead forgive them their debt to you so you can get on with your own life.”

                It has worked for me.

  51. I know I said I was done with this, but I couldn’t stop my mind thinking about it. First, this blog (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com) is running on wordpress.com (not someone like me running WordPress, the software package, on their own server), and so that is why the URL’s have dates in them that are system generated.

    Those of us running WordPress on our own servers can make URL’s say literally anything we want, (manually or change permalink structure) so a date in a URL really doesn’t mean anything. I can make mine say I posted something tomorrow, or 10 years ago.

    In regards to the Arlington page, I was trying to think of something that was more likely than the server date or the author manually changing the date to be incorrect. If the article was created by opening another article and editing the contents, the original date would be preserved. For example, I could create a page via WordPress, and by default the date would be in the URL as it is on this site.. BUT then if I open it back up, (say that post/page was about a current event) and edit it to reflect the new current event, the date structure in the URL (which is just where the page resides on the server) will stay the same. We do this with our CMI “Current Events” page, we edit it as needed when new incidents etc happen.

    If we hadn’t changed our WP permalink structure, (so that it looks like this: http://www.cmionline.com/current-events/) instead of having a date in there, then the content would change but the dates would not.

    I think this is the most likely way the glitch happened at the red devil’s site.

    • Yes a good explanation and very possible. I host several wp sites on my own hosting and by default they also use the date style urls so you would need to change the default configuration to use a different structure. As myself the Arlington site didn’t change the default.

      In situations related to news threads it is the norm to create a new post which then allows WP to create a site archive allowing users to go back and review older posts and pages.

      You see such archive trees on most dynamic wp sites. When I checked the arlington site yesterday there were two news pages for january. A historical one from January 6th and a current one announcing an event on January 21st. This indicates to me that they allowed news items to age into the archive.

      That the news item has been deleted from the site rather than just editing the publish date of the item to the correct one is somewhat suspicious. You would think the document was important enough to keep accessible to concerned people. The event is still current.

    • Another good catch.

      I scanned a few of the search results and virtually all of them relate to incorrect time offsets putting time into undesired timezones or date format misconfigurations displaying jiberish instead of the date/time. I didn’t find any that suggested that wp misinterprets the server clock other than the one you linked to. It appears a valid case of WP having trouble with the clock. These are the kind of problems that generally occur when initially configuring a site and are usually solved by the time a site has been operating for a few years as appears is the case from the arlington whois record.

      The time offset errors do not explain a discrepancy of four days.

      . The arlington site calendar has many entries and you would think they would have worked out such quirks long ago.

      For quite a number of years I have devoted much time to trying to understand the truth about such issues because I keep hoping my suspicions are wrong. It is not a comfortable place to be to suspect treachery from the leadership of the society you belong to. I would much rather be wrong than right.

      Your possible solutions do give me some but not total relief in this situation and I thank you for that.

  52. Oh, and there are obvious causes for dates to be wrong in a WordPress installation. Just google “WordPress date wrong”, tons of results. This one in particular is caused by a plugin and causes a difference of 4 days:
    http://www.turnkeylinux.org/forum/support/20110314/wrong-date-and-time-wordpress

    So that’s another thing that could have happened.

  53. Yeah but if you put all the Facebook pages and now this PDF doc together and the other strange “mishaps” that a majority were 4 days before on Dec 10th that somewhat eliminates computer error. What we should be questioning is what happened at the School and these organizations on that date. Was there some sort of meeting that day? Were there and officials that were at the school on Dec 10th?

    There is also a FEMA document that states they were doing drills in that very town the same day of the “incident” Dec 14th. Check this out http://www.ct.gov/demhs/ical/calendar.asp?mm=12&yyyy=2012&image1.x=23&image1.y=5&calendar_ID=0&showTop=True

    More Info Here:
    http://www.infowars.com/sandy-hook-shooting-active-shooter-drill-confirmed-by-law-enforcement-raises-suspicion-of-false-flag-operation/

  54. Reblogged this on Catholic Glasses and commented:
    I agree. Our heads need “duck tape” to absorb all the lies surrounding the Sandy Hook story. Seems the news outlets broke the Sandy Hook story three days before is just the solid proof we need, that this was a coordinated and planned event. Probably for Obama’s ulterior, political and sick motives. This man is a wacked-out president.

  55. Oh my, it just gets stranger and stranger…NBC reported only handguns used in the school, police say only a rifle, (though police taking the rifle out of the car trunk video blows that one,) now the Newtown Bee is reporting, “A man with a gun who was spotted in the woods near the school on the day of the incident was an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town, according to the source…”
    Uh huh, off duty SWAT…armed in the woods running from the school…WTF???

  56. I do not want to say much here but there is another smoking gun. I am going to place details some other places first in case something happens to me.

    See: http://tinyurl.com/adkr6at

    From a file that only the authorities have modification access to.

    Could you give me private access to someone from your group please?

  57. Peter/Dr. Eowyn, you can send stuff to me for immediate offsite storage through this web-page:

    http://www.delusionalinsects.com/contact-form/index.php

  58. FALSE ALARM

    My sincere apology for any anguish I have caused.

    I originally found this at 4am in the morning just before I had to go run a ferry ramp.

    Looking at the file in a hex editor I mis-interpreted what I saw.

    See image below for explanation.

    http://www.oceanfalls.org/misc/cached002.jpg
    .

    If you look at where I am pointing in the image above you will see a line that starts 12-12. As I went through the file I saw the 20 at the end of the line above and didn’t realize it wasn’t the full year. My brain told me I saw 2012 there so when I came to the next line, I saw it as month 12 day 12. The 17 runs into the time -17T10:34:4. I read it as T17:10:34:4.

    The document was actually created on Dec 14th and modified on Dec 17th.

    My apologies for any anguish I have caused. It has also been stressful for me. At least I know where I stand in regards to a confrontation with the government. If they indeed are in the wrong, which I believe, they will have to kill me to be rid of me.

    Peter

    • Peter,

      Thank you for the clarification.

      As for “If they indeed are in the wrong, which I believe, they will have to kill me to be rid of me” — please know that you are not alone!

      I’m adding you to my prayer list.

      Archangel St. Michael, the Braveheart of Angels, please watch over and protect Peter.

  59. Further explanation: The original document is still extremely suspicious but it can’t technically be proven to originate on Dec 10th 4 days before the shootings.

    This document is a different version than the one originally being discussed in the thread. Someone (sorry tired can’t remember name) found a google search return for it for Dec 13th, a day before the shooting, which is also extremely suspicious and will be difficult to explain away. https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy&as_qdr=y15

    This is now two strange documents.

    I went through the source code on the web page found at the dec 13th return and discovered it still exists on the site at. http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/forms

    The direct link didn’t work from google cached copy but I found where it was in the page source code. They have a block on a direct download but you can access it at the url above.

    Pretty strange and damming that it showed up on the google search engine on Dec 13th but was created on Dec 14th.

    There is again wiggle room for doubt but it is another mark on the wall suggesting wrong doing.

    • Peter, I have to say it’s not acceptable to arrive at the conclusion Google had somehow mistakenly recorded their “date-of-index” as the 13th. This is good enough to present as evidence in court, if the court system was more like it was in 1790. But seriously, of all the elements presented this is how it can be demonstrated as occurring on Dec 13th.

      The wiggle room for doubt will not be amongst the genius-level techs familiar with Google. If pressed, Google could fabricate a scenario to account for it but it would come down to being a glitch. But, if 100 techs in the SEO business were contacted and asked their opinion, they would all agree the page was online on the 13th and DID INCLUDE the URL exactly as it appears today.

      That’s important to emphasize. If asked, “So what? Who cares if a page appeared in Google on the 13th?”, the response would be that the page in question appeared on the 13th AND that page had a URL revealing the subject of the article being the Sandy Hook Shooting.

      I truly want to help you get whatever info you need to call it a win. If you still have questions about what I’m outlaying here, just ask.

  60. I’m glad the google cache of the Red Devils web site is still there. Maybe Google have realised that them removing it would be interpreted by many as Google being complicit.

    Keep up this excellent work, everyone.

    • Sorry if this is a duplicate post. I’m on a relatively slow satellite link from a very remote place and wordpress handles long threads like this very badly on slow connections. Everytime I think the page has settled down and stopped and I try to click a reply, befiore I finish the click it starts up again. I think I replied in the right place but I am actually somewhere else.

      ************************************************************************************
      OK I checked further into this and both the original cached version showing Dec 10th and the DEC 13th cached versions lead to the same page “forms.HTML”

      ==============================Snip of the source code from the file forms.HTML on Arlington site=========================================
      *Information may be entered into these Microsoft Word forms.  Please note that a signature is still required.  If you are unable to open these forms, use either FireFox or Google Chrome.  If you don’t have either browser installed, do the following in Internet Explorer.
      1. When you click on the link select SAVE.2. Rename the file and add the extension .docx (For example: Consent.docx)3. Under Save As Type – Select All Files.

      Informational Items

      Elementary Supply List
      Fee List
      Gifted Assessment Notice
      Student Records and Directory Information Notice
      PPRA Notice (Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment)
      ODE Complaint Procedures

      [b]Talking with your Children about the Sandy Hook Incident[/b]

      The bolded line says the document physically resides at arlingtonlocalschools.com/upload/documents/Elem_Opportunities and is called, “Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary_Incident1.PDF”

      The text to display in the URL on the forms.HTML page is “Talking with your Children about the Sandy Hook Incident”

      The explanation for why Google shows /2012/12/10/ in the URL is complex but important to understand. It is still highly suspicious.

      The /2012/12/10/ relates to the news item not to the PDF. The URL was automatically created when the page was published and linked to the site indexing. The index is used to place the document correctly into the date indexing structure of the site used by the archive tree. The explanation from here is very complex but important.

      Although the user can easily change the /2012/12/10/ from the authors editing page, they can only do it using the WP code block on that page that arbitrarily allows them to change the published date of the document. They can’t arbitrarily make up the string /2012/12/10/ and add it to the URL, they have to change the relevant fields in the document editor page.

      The following explanation could also probably explain the stray memorial and donations pages.

      Here’s what I think happened.

      I think the false flag was originally intended to go down Dec 10th.

      The link in the forms page was created on Dec 10th to a new [b]POST[/b] with the download link ofr the pdf and the author set the published date for the post to DEC 10th which can be seen in the cached page as well as in the url. Google found it and cached it before the 13th. Someone at Google fudged the cache record after the fact to say it was found on the 18th.

      For some reason the false flag was put off until the 13th. The author went back and changed the POST’s published date to Dec 13th which can be seen on the page Google cached AGAIN on DEC 13th even though the URL still shows /2012/12/10/. On Dec 13th We have both Dec 10th and 13th showing on this document. /2012/12/10/ in the addressbar url and Dec 13th as the Published date of the POST.

      The author didn’t realize that even though they had changed the published date Dec 13th the /2012/12/10/ in the indexing structure didn’t update to the 13th. Probably because WP saw it as a modification not a new document and decided the document first appeared on the site on DEC 10th and should stay there in the archive index. It shows the public the new published date but internally still indexes it at /2012/12/10/.

      This explains the discrepancy on the DEC 13th cache record the URL [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy&as_qdr=y15%5Dhttps://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy&as_qdr=y15%5B/url%5D

      shows /2012/12/10/ but if you view the cached page itself it shows a published date of Dec 13 instead of Dec 10 as the other version does.

      The /2012/12/10/ doesn't physically exist as a place on the website it only exists in an indexing record in their database associated with the forms.HTML document not the PDF.

      I can prove what I am saying about how WP is handling this but it will take some work which I am willing to do. Short of WP itself being re-coded in a way that would probably destroy many wp sites, there is nothing they can do to void the explanation I am going to attempt to make.

      The two Google cache records are what are important here not the PDF.

      I will put this explanation up on the blog if it's ok with you.

      Peter

      **********************************************************************************************

      Google is the culprit here that gave away the situation. It's kind of ironic that the surveillance they are using on us is coming back to bite them.

      When you go to the forms page on the site to get the link, the /2012/12/10/ does not show up anywhere in the address bar or link address displayed by some browsers when you hover over the pdf download link or once you click the download link and the file starts downloading. The google bot routine does not go to the file itself, it instead goes to the index record for the file. Only he index record includes the /2012/12/10/. I don't currently understand why google does this. Probably because some other google routine handles downloading referenced content on pages.

      All the cache record routine archiving the forms.html page seems to care about is that another file is referenced. It can find this out in the index in the database much faster than it can by stepping through the harddrive drive index.

      The site itself always just shows [url=http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/upload/documents/Elem_Opportunities/Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary_Incident1.PDF]www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/upload/documents/Elem_Opportunities/Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary_Incident1.PDF[/url] and [url=http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/forms/]www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/forms/[/url]

      http://www.oceanfalls.org/misc/cached006.jpg

      *******************************************************************************

      WordPress allows authors to add new content as either a POST or as a normal WEB-PAGE. The difference explains how the /2012/12/10/ remained behind.

      The forms.html is a webpage, the google cached pages with the download link are posts not a web-pages.

      I don’t have the energy left right now to explain the difference but will do so later.

      The other memorial and donation pages probably suffered from the same glitch.

      Short of their removing all the relevant google cache records and wiping the sites so it is their word against ours there is nothing they can do to stop us picking apart what happened. The evidence is there if we look for it.

      If the cache records and site data disappear we KNOW it was a false flag.

  61. OK I checked further into this and both the original cached version showing Dec 10th and the DEC 13th cached versions lead to the same page “forms.HTML”

    ==============================Snip of the source code from the file forms.HTML on Arlington site=========================================
    *Information may be entered into these Microsoft Word forms.  Please note that a signature is still required.  If you are unable to open these forms, use either FireFox or Google Chrome.  If you don’t have either browser installed, do the following in Internet Explorer.
    1. When you click on the link select SAVE.2. Rename the file and add the extension .docx (For example: Consent.docx)3. Under Save As Type – Select All Files.

    Informational Items

    Elementary Supply List
    Fee List
    Gifted Assessment Notice
    Student Records and Directory Information Notice
    PPRA Notice (Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment)
    ODE Complaint Procedures

    [b]Talking with your Children about the Sandy Hook Incident[/b]

    The bolded line says the document physically resides at arlingtonlocalschools.com/upload/documents/Elem_Opportunities and is called, “Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary_Incident1.PDF”

    The text to display in the URL on the forms.HTML page is “Talking with your Children about the Sandy Hook Incident”

    The explanation for why Google shows /2012/12/10/ in the URL is complex but important to understand. It is still highly suspicious.

    The /2012/12/10/ relates to the news item not to the PDF. The URL was automatically created when the page was published and linked to the site indexing. The index is used to place the document correctly into the date indexing structure of the site used by the archive tree. The explanation from here is very complex but important.

    Although the user can easily change the /2012/12/10/ from the authors editing page, they can only do it using the WP code block on that page that arbitrarily allows them to change the published date of the document. They can’t arbitrarily make up the string /2012/12/10/ and add it to the URL, they have to change the relevant fields in the document editor page.

    The following explanation could also probably explain the stray memorial and donations pages.

    Here’s what I think happened.

    I think the false flag was originally intended to go down Dec 10th.

    The link in the forms page was created on Dec 10th to a new [b]POST[/b] with the download link ofr the pdf and the author set the published date for the post to DEC 10th which can be seen in the cached page as well as in the url. Google found it and cached it before the 13th. Someone at Google fudged the cache record after the fact to say it was found on the 18th.

    For some reason the false flag was put off until the 13th. The author went back and changed the POST’s published date to Dec 13th which can be seen on the page Google cached AGAIN on DEC 13th even though the URL still shows /2012/12/10/. On Dec 13th We have both Dec 10th and 13th showing on this document. /2012/12/10/ in the addressbar url and Dec 13th as the Published date of the POST.

    The author didn’t realize that even though they had changed the published date Dec 13th the /2012/12/10/ in the indexing structure didn’t update to the 13th. Probably because WP saw it as a modification not a new document and decided the document first appeared on the site on DEC 10th and should stay there in the archive index. It shows the public the new published date but internally still indexes it at /2012/12/10/.

    This explains the discrepancy on the DEC 13th cache record the URL [url=https://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy&as_qdr=y15%5Dhttps://www.google.com/search?q=inurl:http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/10/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy&as_qdr=y15%5B/url%5D

    shows /2012/12/10/ but if you view the cached page itself it shows a published date of Dec 13 instead of Dec 10 as the other version does.

    The /2012/12/10/ doesn't physically exist as a place on the website it only exists in an indexing record in their database associated with the forms.HTML document not the PDF.

    I can prove what I am saying about how WP is handling this but it will take some work which I am willing to do. Short of WP itself being re-coded in a way that would probably destroy many wp sites, there is nothing they can do to void the explanation I am going to attempt to make.

    The two Google cache records are what are important here not the PDF.

    I will put this explanation up on the blog if it's ok with you.

    Peter

    **********************************************************************************************

    Google is the culprit here that gave away the situation. It's kind of ironic that the surveillance they are using on us is coming back to bite them.

    When you go to the forms page on the site to get the link, the /2012/12/10/ does not show up anywhere in the address bar or link address displayed by some browsers when you hover over the pdf download link or once you click the download link and the file starts downloading. The google bot routine does not go to the file itself, it instead goes to the index record for the file. Only he index record includes the /2012/12/10/. I don't currently understand why google does this. Probably because some other google routine handles downloading referenced content on pages.

    All the cache record routine archiving the forms.html page seems to care about is that another file is referenced. It can find this out in the index in the database much faster than it can by stepping through the harddrive drive index.

    The site itself always just shows [url=http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/upload/documents/Elem_Opportunities/Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary_Incident1.PDF]www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/upload/documents/Elem_Opportunities/Talking-With-Your-Children-About-the-Sandy-Hook-Elementary_Incident1.PDF[/url] and [url=http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/forms/]www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/forms/[/url]

    http://www.oceanfalls.org/misc/cached006.jpg

    *******************************************************************************

    WordPress allows authors to add new content as either a POST or as a normal WEB-PAGE. The difference explains how the /2012/12/10/ remained behind.

    The forms.html is a webpage, the google cached pages with the download link are posts not a web-pages.

    I don’t have the energy left right now to explain the difference but will do so later.

    The other memorial and donation pages probably suffered from the same glitch.

    Short of their removing all the relevant google cache records and wiping the sites so it is their word against ours there is nothing they can do to stop us picking apart what happened. The evidence is there if we look for it.

    If the cache records and site data disappear we KNOW it was a false flag.

  62. Even though some of my theorizing above is wrong I think it is close enough that other developers will now know where to start looking. I can relax now and feel what happens to me is irrelevant. The information is out there and others can carry on if I can’t.

    It really doesn’t matter much to me which way it goes. At this point I can relax and go at this slowly and start over again from the start now knowing what I figured out by the end and rewrite it so it makes more sense.

    It’s been another very long day and I’ll start on it tomorrow after dealing with a few other things first.

    Peter

  63. Here’s a dead giveaway that the first google cache record found is doctored by google.

    I knew I was overlooking something important but couldn’t put my finger on it until I went to bed and relaxed a bit.

    The first cache record found states it was recorded on Dec 18th: if you look at the published date on the cached page attached it shows Published date Dec 10th.

    The second cache record found states it was recorded on Dec, 13th if you look at the published date on this cached page it shows Published date Dec 13th.

    How could a cache record taken after Dec 13th show a published date of Dec 10th if the published date had already been changed to Dec 13th on Dec 13th?

    That could only occur if the dec 18th cache record was actually recorded before Dec 13th. The dec 18th date is doctored after the fact.

    There is more I realized but I really do need to rest.

    Tomorrow is another day.

    Peter

    * My computer blue screened when I shut it down and destroyed my registry. That never happens to me. I’m limping along here to get this up.

    It will probably take awhile tomorrow to put the pieces together before I can run again in a state I trust.

  64. Ok, now this article is wrong about one thing.

    The 2012/12/10 in the actual URL means ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING.
    the real critic is the date modified.

    if you go to the actual webpage and look at the sitemap at:
    http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/sitemap.xml
    you will see You could eaily post something and change the end date url of the page itself.
    One example.
    http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/calendar/2014/09/08/varsity-volleyball-w-north-baltimore-600pm

    This was posted in the future and has a date of 2014/09/08 so if they can make a post in the future it comes to reason they could accidentally post a wrong date.

    I have proven they didn’t!!!

    if you look at the site map the VERY RIGHT column is the date that was modified.

    according to google cache at: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:xYLbH9vLDMUJ:www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/sitemap.xml+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

    Search for talking you will see 2012/12/10 in the url but the interesting portion is NOT that it’s the DATE MODIFIED FIELD WHICH SHOWS:
    2012-12-10T00:00:00-05:00 monthly 0.6

    GAME OVER!

    • here, hope your right. We’re a tad slow on this stuff, but a few commenters understand this stuff.
      Peter?
      David?
      Any idea on this.?
      Steve

    • Good find here it is another smoking gun!

      Yesterday my main concern was the evidence could be buried before we could use it as proof. I wanted to get it recorded before it disappeared.

      At the end of the day I came to realize the horse is already out of the barn so to speak and even if they put the horse back in the barn the evidence will remain.

      Much of what I said previously is not totally correct but does point in the right direction. Reverse engineering the logic flow of such systems is a trial and error process.

      I now think there is the time to analyze this properly without worrying about the evidence vanishing. The only thing we need to worry about is the people such as ourselves that understand what this means being vanished. That is a very real threat to all of us.

      here…. I disagree with you on the point that the url shown in the google cache is unimportant and can be manipulated by the end user. It is critical evidence that google is involved in this. That url has nothing to do with the user interface of the site. Yes the user can cause the url to change but once it is recorded by google it is set in stone.

      What the url is generated from is the google bots scouring of the site. The bots do not step through the site as end users do. They order the site content database sequentially by descending date. There will be fields in the database that allow that to be done. The bots can then quickly and easily find records that have changed since their last visit.

      The bots indexing is not the same as the end users. Google is determined to keep records of all versions of documents that existed not only the current version.

      The bots index uses as its base point the first date a document appeared. That is the only way they could track all versions.

      Brant inadvertently gave us a very important clue when he suggested someone had just re-used an old post page from dec 10th and placed new content into it. That is exactly what they did. They created the page on Dec 10th, went back and edited on Dec 13th and changed the published date to dec 13th and did the same again sometime after to whatever date the live document now shows.

      They assumed this solved the dating problem, and it did as far as the site was concerned. There will still be dirty linen there but I won’t explain where it is right now. They didn’t realize that the bot indexing data on the site still points to the originating date.

      The url you see in the google cache version is the field, or fields, in the database that allows for quickly finding all editions/edits of a single document. Every version of a document will have that same originating date url in it as well as a field with the published date. For end users the database is ordered by the published date field instead. When the web page is generated by the code it first finds the version with the most recent published date and displays that version instead of the historical copies that still exist in the database.

      Now that I feel that time is not most critical, I am going to spend a day or so documenting this more clearly right from the start hopefully in terms that non techs can understand.

      Peter

    • Here What you are doing is very important and you are far better at that level of analysis than I am. Please continue and document well what you do. Probably the best way to bring the information forward is to make it available to everyone here.

      I would suggest this might warrant a separate thread.

      It gets very confusing combining all aspects of the investigation in one place.

  65. I mean to say:

    Search for talking you will see 2012/12/10 in the url but the interesting portion is NOT that.
    The INTERESTING PORTION IS the DATE MODIFIED FIELD WHICH SHOWS:

    2012-12-10T00:00:00-05:00 monthly 0.6

    GAME OVER!

  66. For the record…. I mentioned the blue screen of death of my computer last night. I have restored to early yesterday but my computer is still being used to automatically relay messages from a contact form on a website I monitor.

    This could very possibly be sending messages to incriminate me in something without my knowledge. I can stop the process but I need to restore my computer to a point before I got involved in this conversation. I suggest you all keep a close eye on your computers.

    • Peter,

      I’ve had Internet connection problems since early yesterday morning. I keep getting Internet connection reset messages. Then last night I got a message I’d never seen before — that Windows detected another computer at my IP address. I called my server AT&T; was told there’s a connection problem and that technical support will fix it, but will probably take 1 to 2 days.

      What do you make of that?

      • Eowyn, and Peter. Umm, OK so their I am this AM and trying to re-install 2 very small programs I’ve downloaded many times before. The new PC is window 8, but they both say installed, yet they are not there.
        Prob all just a coincidence… I hope..LOL

      • What I had was nasty stuff. It was overriding my security of notifying me of silent messages being sent from my machine.

        The connection error messages you were getting could be innocent or meaningful. That they occur now is suspicious.

        The innocent explanation is that if you are on an ISP with many customers, most of which have dynamic IP addresses, if your modem is acting up and disconnects you for a period the dynamic IP assigned you in your last connected session has already been assigned to someone else because you were no longer connected. Totally innocent, it’s how networks work.

        Two possibilities that are not as innocent.

        They are screwing up setting up a mirror accessing all the data going to and from your connection.

        They are setting up a spoof of you to create false evidence you are doing something illegal.

        I can’t say for sure but there is probably nothing we can do to stop this. This possibility comes with the territory.

        The best protection is to get as many people involved in this conversation as possible so that if anything happens to us they cannot stop word from getting out.

        Other than that about all you can do to protect yourself is to assure you have a backup way of getting your information out without identifying who you are.

        A laptop with internet access that hasn’t been used to connect to any of your known connections which does/has not accessed any of your regular email accounts or logons for places you frequent.

        It should use a VPN to connect through a service not connected in anyway to your regular communications.

        • Thanks, Peter.

          The best way for us to handle this is, as you point out, to widely disseminate the info so that many people know about it. And we are. Thousands of Facebook pages have linked to this.

          Then they’ll have to kill all of us. LOL

    • Since a couple of days ago the notifier in my email program that gives me audible warning of incoming mail also conveniently stopped functioning. I’ve been trying to figure out why.

      I am going turn off automatic checking for mail and retrieve mail manually in a different way so I can check it more closely before it disappears. There may be some delays in my responses as a result.

      • Depending on the mail service you use…. If you can check your mail on the mail server you use before it is downloaded to your machine you could check to see what is there before it hits your machine.

  67. @Peter, Thanks for the extended reply back.

    Yes, I have also found the interesting changes.

    One of the changes was the 12/10 calendar date.

    It was originally (Inside the actually calendar entry) set as the date Dec 10.

    Later, I don’t know exactly when; it was changed to show December 13th (inside the actual calendar entry)

    On January 13th I have an original copy of the site map:

    The NEW URL was this:

    http://www.arlingtonlocalschools.com/news/2012/12/13/talking-with-your-child-about-the-sandy-hook-tragedy 60% Monthly 2012-12-13 00:00

    But, the 2012/12/20 Link still worked (with changed calendar entry inside changed from dec 10 to 13th), it was still on the webserver.

    Notice the Modified date on the sitemap.

    I can give you copies of the sitemap on January 13th that I saved if you need them as you seem quite confident that you have them.

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