Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud

Friends and Patriots,

It’s major duct tape time ’cause you’ll need it to keep your head from exploding.

Are you ready for this?

Here we go….

There is now compelling and undeniable evidence that MAJOR vote fraud had been perpetrated in the November 2012 Election. See FOTM’s posts chronicling the extensive pervasive fraud by going to our “2012 Election” page below our FOTM masthead, and click on those post links colored dark green.

But our screaming and hollering are to no avail. No one is listening to us. Not even the Republican Party.

Here’s why….

The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.

Yes. You read it correctly.

In fact, legally the GOP cannot ensure voting integrity, nor can it prevent vote fraud.

Here’s the astounding reason, which is kept from the American people.

PolitiJim writes for Gulag Bound, November 13, 2012, that during the weekly True the Vote webcast, Catherine Engelbrecht (see her photo below) related a meeting she had with Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee (RNC), asking what the GOP would do about voter integrity.  The answer?

Nothing.  They aren’t legally able to.

True the Vote’s Catherine Engelbrecht (read more about her, here)

This all goes back to a lawsuit 31 years ago, in 1981. The following is compiled from an account on The Judicial View, a legal website specializing in court decision research and alerts, and from “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” Case No. 09-4615.

In 1981, during the gubernatorial election in New Jersey (NJ), a lawsuit was brought against the RNC, the NJ Republican State Committee (RSC), and three individuals (John A. Kelly, Ronald Kaufman, and Alex Hurtado), accusing them of violating the Voting Rights Act of 1965 (VRA), 42 U.S.C. §§ 1971, 1973, and the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States.

The lawsuit was brought by the Democratic National Committee (DNC), the NJ Democratic State Committee (DSC), and two individuals (Virginia L. Peggins and Lynette Monroe).

The lawsuit alleged that:

  • The RNC and RSC targeted minority voters in New Jersey in an effort to intimidate them.
  • The RNC created a voter challenge list by mailing sample ballots to individuals in precincts with a high percentage of racial or ethnic minority registered voters. Then the RNC put the names of individuals whose postcards were returned as undeliverable on a list of voters to challenge at the polls.
  • The RNC enlisted the help of off-duty sheriffs and police officers with “National Ballot Security Task Force” armbands, to intimidate voters by standing at polling places in minority precincts during voting. Some of the officers allegedly wore firearms in a visible manner.

To settle the lawsuit, in 1982 — while Ronald Reagan was President (1981-1989) — the RNC and RSC entered into an agreement or Consent Decree, which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The following is what the RNC and RSC, in the Consent Decree, agreed they would do:

[I]n the future, in all states and territories of the United States:

(a) comply with all applicable state and federal laws protecting the rights of duly qualified citizens to vote for the candidate(s) of their choice;

(b) in the event that they produce or place any signs which are part of ballot security activities, cause said signs to disclose that they are authorized or sponsored by the party committees and any other committees participating with the party committees;

(c) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their agents or employees to remove or deface any lawfully printed and placed campaign materials or signs;

(d) refrain from giving any directions to or permitting their employees to campaign within restricted polling areas or to interrogate prospective voters as to their qualifications to vote prior to their entry to a polling place;

(e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor in the decision to conduct, or the actual conduct of, such activities there and where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting; and the conduct of such activities disproportionately in or directed toward districts that have a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations shall be considered relevant evidence of the existence of such a factor and purpose;

(f) refrain from having private personnel deputized as law enforcement personnel in connection with ballot security activities.

The RNC also agreed that the RNC, its agents, servants, and employees would be bound by the Decree, “whether acting directly or indirectly through other party committees.”

As modified in 1987, the Consent Decree defined “ballot security activities” to mean “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.”

Since 1982, that Consent Decree has been renewed every year by the original judge, Carter appointee District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise, now 88 years old. Long retired, Debevoise comes back yearly for the sole purpose of renewing his 1982 order for another year.

U.S. District Judge Dickinson R. Debevoise

In 2010, the RNC unsuccessfully appealed “to vacate or modify” the Consent Decree in “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” Case No. 09-4615 (C.A. 3, Mar. 8, 2012). (I paid The Judicial Review $10 for the PDF of Case No. 09-4615 and uploaded the 59-page document to FOTM’s media library. To read Case No. 09-4615, click here!)

This is a summary of the appeals judge’s ruling, filed on March 8, 2012:

In 1982, the Republican National Committee (“RNC”) and the Democratic National Committee (“DNC”) entered into a consent decree (the “Decree” or “Consent Decree”), which is national in scope, limiting the RNC’s ability to engage or assist in voter fraud prevention unless the RNC obtains the court’s approval in advance. The RNC appeals from a judgment of the United States District Court for the District of New Jersey denying, in part, the RNC’s Motion to Vacate or Modify the Consent Decree. Although the District Court declined to vacate the Decree, it did make modifications to the Decree. The RNC argues that the District Court abused its discretion by modifying the Decree as it did and by declining to vacate the Decree. For the following reasons, we will affirm the District Court’s judgment.

Surprise! The judge who denied the RNC’s appeal to “vacate” the 1982 Consent Decree is an Obama appointee, Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.

Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., U.S. Court of Appeals, 3rd Circuit

Guy Benson of Townhall.com points out that in last Tuesday’s election, Obama only won by 406,348 votes in 4 states:

  • Florida: 73,858
  • Ohio: 103,481
  • Virginia: 115,910
  • Colorado: 113,099

Those four states, with a collective margin of 406,348 votes for Obama, add up to 69 electoral votes. Had Romney won 407,000 or so additional votes in the right proportion in those states, he would have 275 electoral votes.

All four states showed Romney ahead in the days leading up to the election. But on November 6, Romney lost all four states by a substantial margin, all of which have precincts that inexplicably went 99% for Obama, had voter registrations that exceeded their population, and had experienced  problems with voting machines.

This election was stolen by the Democrats via vote fraud. Despite all the evidence of fraud, the Republican Party has been strangely silent about it.

Now you know why.

I’ll leave you with one last, even more disturbing thought:

The RNC and DNC made their Consent Decree 30 years ago, in 1982. The agreement in effect gives a carte blanche to the Democrat Party to commit vote fraud in every voting district across America that has, in the language of the Consent Decree, “a substantial proportion of racial or ethnic populations.” The term “substantial proportion” is not defined.

The Democrat Party knew this 30 years ago, more than enough time to put a plan in place to identify and groom their “perfect candidate” — in the words of Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) in 2008, a “light-skinned” black Democrat who has “no Negro dialect unless he wanted to have one.”

  • Being a black Democrat, this perfect candidate would get the support of almost all black Americans (96% in 2008!) and other racial minorities (two-thirds of Hispanics in 2008).
  • Being a “light-skinned” black with “no Negro dialect”, this perfect candidate would get the support of white Americans perpetually guilt-ridden about America’s original sin of slavery.

It doesn’t matter if this “perfect candidate” has dubious Constitutional eligibility to be president. They would see to it that his original birth certificate (if there is one) would never see the light of day. The same with his other documents — his passports, school and college records, draft registration, and medical records (so we’ll never know why Obama has that very long scar running from one side of his head, over the crown, to the other side).

Now, we understand the significance of the account Tom Fife wrote during the 2008 presidential campaign. Fife, a U.S. government contractor, claims that in 1992 while he was visiting Moscow, a woman with undying allegiance to Soviet Communism (the Soviet Union had recently collapsed, on December 31, 1991) told him that a black man named Barack, born of a white American woman and an African male, was being groomed by communists to be, and would be elected, President of the United States.

Now, we finally understand the cryptic remark made in May 2010, by Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan: “Obama was selected before he was elected.”

In 2008, this “perfect candidate” won the presidential election. And despite his many failures in his first term, he would be reelected in 2012 for a second term via massive vote fraud. But nothing would be done about the vote fraud, because of that Consent Decree signed by the RNC 30 years ago.

The Republican Party is dead — and with it, the U.S. two-party system as well — and the sooner we voters recognize that the better.

The question that remains is whether the American Republic is also dead.

UPDATE (Nov. 16, 2012):

Since I published this post yesterday, we’ve been asking each other: “What can I/we do about this?” Here are my suggestions:

1. If you are a registered Republican, QUIT! Switch your voter registration ID to non-partisan Independent.

2. Stop donating money, not even one penny, to the GOP. Tell them why.

3. Spread the word. Please send the URL of this post (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/) to:

  • EVERYONE on your email list.
  • Media people for whom you have email addresses.
  • Tea Party groups you know.
  • Post the link on your Facebook page.
  • Post the link as your comment on websites and blogs you visit.

4. Write your state’s attorney general and ask him/her to investigate vote fraud in your state. Click here!

UPDATE (Nov. 21, 2012):

5 days after I’d published this and 7 days after PolitiJim of GulagBound published his acount, someone in the conservative establishment media is writing about this — WND’s Bob Unruh. Click here for his article, “GOP Legally Barred From Fighting Vote Fraud”. But it’s still the sound of crickets from conservative talk radio, even though I’ve sent my post to Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck, and a reader had also sent it to Mark Levin.

Just so you know: It makes no monetary difference to us how many people read this post. Fellowship of the Minds (FOTM) is an ad-free blog. We don’t make even a penny in revenue because we deliberately don’t have ads. In fact, I paid WordPress a $99 annual fee so WordPress can’t insert ads on FOTM either. All of our writers work our butts off, for no pay, as a labor of love for our country.

~Eowyn

319 responses to “Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud

  1. Indeed, Dr. Eowyn, this is the most important post you have ever written. What happened in this Consent Decree is absolutely unthinkable, unfathomable and frankly, I have no words to describe how crooked it is and the fact that the same judge came back every year, although retired, to tend to this Decree is an indictment in and of itself. All of these facts are really remarkable reflecting that Obama was chosen for the presidency many years ago. It is also incredible that Obama’s court appointee denied the recent Republican Party’s attempt to eradicate this Consent Decree, most probably because of the recent voter fraud issues. The fact that the DNC’S 2012 Platform excluded any mention of God, also verifies that the Communists, atheists, have taken over the Democratic Party and its platforms and issues, insuring that the five non-negotiable issues, intrinsically evil practices, go their way, i.e. abortion, euthanasia, embryonic stem cell research, human cloning and homosexual marriage. As you know, we are faced with more than a breakdown of the Republican Party, we are faced with pure evil, “in your face” evil and the Democrats and their regime know it and they don’t care about it.

    • Someone sent me this link. After 15 minutes all I can say is, please, please get pschiatric help, turn off FOX, read a book, talk to real people. If this site is actually satire, like The Onion, I am sorry. But if you believe this crap, get help soon.

      • More for Woody25:

      • I don’t watch Fox, I read books, talk to people regularly & am not nuts but have you ever actually followed case law and public records? I’m sure that your biased self would not ever recognize that it was not a birther who questioned Obama’s eligibilty for office but that the first filed lawsuit was by a prominent PA Democrat who questioned that members of his own party were being denied a lawful candidate for the presidency. That is a matter of public record

      • So, Woody, you must be an advocate for civil war,eh?

      • Unlike Woody25 I examined the links and did the work to validate this information. Woody25 appears to be one of those on the left who believe without question whatever comes from the font of liberalism, but is too lazy to do his homework to validate for himself.

        Thus this is not crap, but a very eye opening post from this blog – well done. Woody25, people like you are the reason this country is in this mess and heading like a bullet train to socialism. I am guessing you may have to look up socialism in the dictionary, but that you will not and will just call it crap from Fox News before you go back to your video game and tweeting.

        “About The Republic” http://www.aboutrepublic.wordpress.com

      • Yeah yeah. you made an obligitory post that you might have even been paid to make. Glad that’s done. Move on to the next step. Please address the case law sited in the article. Is it fabricated, exagerated, non-existant? Used out of context?
        You lose ground when you can’t address the ISSUE, and make yourself look like an ideological boot licker. Your post actually makes the article appear that much more credible. We are pretty sure that wasn’t your intent, but geez. If that’s your best, maybe you should give up posting except on sites where you can rah-rah. Go on over to HuffPo or MSNBC. Tweet Barbara Striesand. Post on Whitehouse.gov.

      • Deeply sorry for the millions of Americans suffering under this admin. The millions on food stamps, unemployed, and those out of the workforce.

        You have a great Thanksgiving!

      • Woody25,

        You certainly think 25!
        Send you a link… for what? After 15 minutes you say you have drilled down to the core, to reveal the truth. The heart of superior knowledge in this and all such non-leftist bedevilment.
        Get mental help, don’t watch Foxnews, talk to real people… No one feels sorry for your sort Woody.

        Ranting to that (other) empty head draped between your legs does not qualify as interaction with other advanced life forms pal.

        You compromised all your journalistic prowess in four short lines of utterly debased ignorance. So take your winnings and go back in your used trailer.

        • Again with the insulting references to getting help–psychiatric I presume–by yet another deaf-dumb-&-blind leftist, with nothing to offer but ridicule of the facts no less–typical, but so nauseating, and so very sad–yet, those like you go from message board, to blog, willy-nilly, posting the same nonsense over and over, as though scoffing will get you everything–but, you never offer up anything by way of refutation of the facts presented that lean so heavily against the soulless, mindless, heartless leftist drivel that’s being shoved down the throats of everyone in this country—tsk-tsk-tsk–but, what will those like you do when you find out exactly what it is that you are genuinely supporting–will you do as the song suggests and “run away and cry”?–to whom? By then, no one will be left who could help you, or would even bother.

      • Woody25, Did you get the name woody because your head is made of some kind of wood, I would guess it’s a very soft wood like Balsam wood.
        The head of the RNC has already stated in public that the republican party doesn’t have the legal right to claim voter fraud, so the good Dr. Eowyn has posted the information that is correct, so Woody you are the one that needs a readjustment of your chromosomes. Liberals can never seem to get information right it’s only what they believe that changes the equation into something totally irrelevant to the issue.

    • Good Dr.you need proof not petitions,advertise a phone number on local radio or other media in areas of suspected voter fraud for people to call in from those precints that voted romney,take names and addresses.

      • Yours is a good idea, ak.

        Alas, neither I nor anyone on Fellowship of the Minds has the financial resources or manpower to pay for advertisements and to take phone calls. But this is something that GOP big donors like the Koch Brothers and Sheldon Adelson should do, instead of pouring their millions down the GOP rat hole. Perhaps the Tea Parties can provide volunteers to staff the phone lines.

        • If I had the means and were with all I would,,its such a simple solution that its easily overlooked,how can we get the tea party involved? The question is how many (pro romney voters) legitimate names and addresses from one single precinct that had zero romney votes would you need for an attorney general to look into it?

          • Pick a city for us,from any of the cities that have questionable precincts,go to facebook, search friends by city not home town,send message “any chance you live in #### precincts,if so did you vote for romney?” Repeat,ask readers here to participate,you’ll get answers,its a start.

  2. This is like the plot-line of an old-school Robert Ludlum novel! (I say old school because his name has been used as as a pseudonymn for a host of cranks since his death in 2001.) Amazing research, Dr. E. You should be elected Vetter-General!

  3. As if it was not sufficient that we now have Unbridled Democracy–We also have wholesale Voter Fraud as well. We are doomed as a Nation! The Stupid Pigs at the Trough, can hear nothing but Trough Noise, in their feeding frenzy…   David LeBaron

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  4. This is depressing and frustrating. What happens to the Decree when Judge Greenaway passes away?

  5. Hardnox,

    I was shocked to my core. After I published this post, my body was shaking and continued shaking for an hour after.

    Dislodging the GOP won’t be easy because of its organizational infrastructure that spans America. The first thing that must happen is that Americans who had identified themselves as Republicans stop doing so by registering as nonpartisan Independents. At the same time, all the big-cat donors to the GOP must stop giving to the GOP. Serious thought and planning for a viable 3rd party must begin. (The Libertarian Party isn’t a candidate; it’s never been serious about running in and winning elections.)

  6. Let my tears join yours. I am beyond grief for the great country we once were. May I ask that as we pray for solace and solutions for this nation that we also bow our heads in prayer for Israel.

  7. Wow, Doc E. Awesome post – probably the best you have ever done.

    Of course, you could have just said, “Stick a fork in us, ‘cuz we is fer-sure done.”

    This is depressing – and then some. :-(

    -Dave

  8. The Republican Party has strayed so far from it’s roots that it hasn’t really reflected conservative values for years. In my state, the GOP leadership doesn’t even actively support their own candidates with conservative values who’ve made it to the general election! Third Party movements have come and gone without making a ripple. That needs to change. How do we do it?

    • Tough to do here in our state LTG. Beyond the libs in the largest counties electing Ds, the money is a big issue. Why waste it here when it will do no good? Infuriating…

      • Kirby Wilbur, head of the state GOP. said the party didn’t back longstanding pro-life, fiscally responsible John Koster because he ran a bad campaign. Koster is highly respected and was endorsed by the Seattle Times yet the state GOP didn’t back him! Instead, Suzanne DelBene a radical leftwing millionaire feminist is now representing my district. It makes me want to scream!

        I am totally through with the Republican Party/GOP

        • Yep. Our state elected a D as state auditor, one that has a closed financial settlement involving his corrupt financial dealings. He gets away without releasing the info. The democrat way! Go figure..

        • Ditto, DelBene will be another fiscal disaster for our state. Let the sheeple pay for it. Elections will have consequences.

  9. I’ll be watching to see it.

  10. It is unconscionable that this was ever allowed to happen. By a judge or by the GOP. I can’t help but wonder if some money didn’t change hands because this is suicide for the GOP, and they must have known it.

  11. Sigh… Dr E, I sure wish that this is not true, but alas, there are stranger things we have never heard of, I’m sure. This explains a lot of things, mainly why the voter fraud was really blatant this year. All the dems had to do was stack the vote in certain districts in the swing states, and Viola, BO wins…

    I saw Megan Kelly tonite on Bill O’s show and she drew a comparison of Romney’s vote count in Philly to Mc Cain’s vote count, there were districts that had no votes for either republican. So, she concluded that it was normal in Philly, but to me it proves that voter fraud has been going on for a while now…

    What can we do? We can get the word out, and maybe we can explain to the low information voters what it means. I cannot understand why the RNC has kept this a virtual secret, is that part of the agreement, too? The tea party and 912 groups need to learn about this. We,meaning all of us at FOTM, need to tell others about this. I have posted to my FB page and Twitter, and have one contact more that I can make.

    LET’S DO THIS PEOPLE, Yes We Can… ;-)

    • Hardnox, why do we need or deserve another politicl party?
      Why not just have moral, God fearing candidates that would keep their oath of office, and uphold and defend the Constitution from enimies from without and from within, and answer only to those that sent them there, and not to a political party?
      I would vote for someone like that, especially if they didn’t belong to any political party!

      • Hardnox; from what I have read in The Constitution, and along with the warnings of the Father of our country,George Washington, I see no Constitutional government established in Washington, muchless any States?
        The Constitution is the law of the land, not some jacka$$ agreement between political parties!
        It is no wonder we have lost control of a once great nation; following the laws and advice of a corrupt government.
        Do we deserve the kind of government that we have? … We all voted for it!
        Don’t take anything that I am writting personally, i’m included, we all have acted like ‘sheeple’ for far too long. ..

  12. Since I published this post yesterday, we’ve been asking each other: “What can I/we do about this?” Here are my suggestions:

    1. If you are a registered Republican, QUIT! Switch your voter registration ID to non-partisan Independent.

    2. Stop donating money, not even one penny, to the GOP. Tell them why.

    3. Spread the word. Please send the URL of this post (http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/why-the-gop-will-not-do-anything-about-vote-fraud/) to:

    * EVERYONE on your email list.
    * Media people for whom you have email addresses.
    * Tea Party groups you know.
    * Post the link on your Facebook page.
    * Post the link as your comment on websites and blogs you visit.

    • This makes no sense. The GOP of 30 years ago is the one to be blamed. There must have been something to the suit for them to have entered into the CD.
      The CD clearly states that the GOP can’t take any actions to try to limit the number of voters going to the polls when it is obvious, to me, that the Democrats figured out ways to eliminate Republican votes from the final tallys. To try to get around this is not even mentioned in this CD.
      If the Democrats had used ballot box stuffing – multiple voters, dead people’s votes, illegals voting – they would have had MORE votes for Obama than in ’08, instead they got FEWER.
      The fact that Republican votes came in lower in number than when McCain ran, when it was widely reported that enthusiasm was higher this time around and the polls confirmed this, indicates we need to find a way to ensure ALL Republican votes are reported.

  13. Was our fate as a free nation signed, sealed, and delivered to the gates of Hell? Was this so-called “agreement” the selling of our collective soul to Satan? Doc, staggering results. As are others, I’m shell-shocked; not just over this ultimate and all-encompassing betrayal, but the deep rooted corruption and evil that continues to lie, and cheat, and steal as accepted matter of course, as the only viable course of behavior for the vast majority of our “elected” officials. A devastating blow for sure but we are not sheeple. The fight continues with the light and power of the truth. Thanks Doc! Truly earth shattering revelations. The system is truly broken but is it broken beyond salvaging?

    • Once I spotted the fact that the GOP placed the stars on it’s elephant’s side upside-down–turning those ‘stars’ into representations of the evil ‘baphomet’ symbol–they were signaling that they were now controlled by those same entities who control the DnC party–so, when people claim both parties are really interchangeable, or different parts of the same organization, they might not realize just how right their statement really is–I didn’t know about the law suit from 1982, but it’s so outrageous, and so corrupt in and of itself, for any law suit to have ended in tying the hands of the republicans in the way that one did, that we really need to recognize just how pervasive this corruption truly is–and, just how far back in time this entire scheme to literally ‘swallow our gov’t whole’, then spit it back out in a totally different form[aka social-communism/fascism/nazi-ism, at the very least], by those who love the idea of the “One World Gov.” [and what they perceive as all of it's 'goodness'], that it’s literally become their religion of sorts, actually goes–

      —-so, I believe while most of us went about our daily lives over the decades, while also slowly but surely leaving faith in God Almighty and His Son, Jesus, more and more out of those daily lives of ours, those “who would be king–at all costs” have steadily and stealthily oozed themselves into our gov’t’s structure, until now, they’ve so completely ‘ingested it’–[amoeba-style]–that, unless we can somehow make them ‘throw it back up’, so that we can again form it back into what it was first intended to resemble/be by our founders–well, I’d have to say that just about all we will be capable of doing–besides PRAY, asking for God’s help[!]–is to ask those who’ve basically absorbed our gov’t by this time–“Do you want fries with that?”–[and, I'll bet if we did ask that of them, their answer would probably be--"Sure--if they're FREE!"]–I pray for those lost souls in earnest, believe me!

      • Thank you, Christie, for reminding us that the GOP indeed turned the stars in its party symbol upside down into pentagrams, instead of the upright stars of the American flag! Now why would they do that, if not to signify SOMETHING? The pentagram is widely recognized to be a Baphomet satanic symbol.
        .

        http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2011/07/02/the-gop-went-over-to-the-dark-side/

        • That is spooky indeed!!!

          I still haven’t been able to come to terms with the whole Bohemian Grove thing. I want desperately to dismiss it, but I can’t. Alex Jones unmasked this stuff by sneaking in with a video camera.

          (Why are we seeing this on the Russian website?)

        • I was the Public Information Officer for our area’s Republican party. When I received the artwork with the three upside down stars. I did some checking and the work was HomoSexual in Origin. The upside down penta star is a symbol of homosexuality and godlessness. The Pentagrams of Witches and Wicca are skewed with lines of unequal length. The message is that Satan and his minions rule over the Republican Party. I redesigned the brand with five stars upright (after all, if an ass can have four an elephant ought to be big enough for five) and offered it to the party. They took it and some used it but have gone back. The Republican Party has chosen to wear a curse on its head betraying the rest of us. We had a group of lesbians that tried to take over the local club and I got tired of the drama and quit.

  14. What ever. Explain why several RNC republicans are challenging the votes in their districts and have hired attornies and are investigating voter fraud. Example= Allen West.

    • So in effect you’re calling me a liar. You have some nerve.

      Why don’t YOU explain the 1982 Consent Decree and the March 2012 appeals judge’s ruling denying the RNC their request to “vacate” (i.e., void) the 1982 Consent Decree? I’ve embedded links to everything, including the 59-page 2012 appeals judge’s ruling.

      But then I see from your Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/danielle.moore.528316) that you’re a Satanist in Clackamas, Oregon. No wonder.
      .

      • Typical isn’t it. Let’s all take a shower to wash away her stench.
        Nice find Doc.

          • Not sure i believe this.explain bush victories in 2000 and 2004….intialy they kerrry winning this Ohio but bush won by 56,000…explain

            • Reporting on this 1982 Consent Decree doesn’t oblige me to explain everything under the sun. The simplest explanation could be that the Dems didn’t resort to massive vote fraud until this election. Besides, whatever happened in previous elections doesn’t negate the reality that there is a RNC-DNC agreement, the Consent Decree, that’s renewed every year by the original judge, the appeal of which was overruled just this March by Obama appointee appeals judge Joseph Greenaway Jr.

            • “.intialy they kerrry winning this Ohio”

              I’m going to interpret this “authentic frontier gibberish” as “they initially reported Kerry winning Ohio”.

              Which is true. They made a projection (a guess) based on exit polls (incomplete, inaccurate data). When the votes were actually counted (complete, accurate data), the guess turned out to be incorrect.

            • Not all Republicans are RNC and though he can challege individually, RNC cannot support him. So when liberally lying media said the RNC would not support his challenge I bet you never heard they couldn’t. And Bush won in spite of voter fraud. How many of you saw Democrat poll workers sneaking back in to punch out chad all caught on security video? It was shown once, no more than twice and the official Democrat response was to shut up and drop the issue like a hot potato..

      • Eowyn!!!!!
        You stomped that troll so hard, I felt the wind here in Nothingham, Massachusetts!!! And did my eyes deceive me, or did I see a flash of cleats on your boot? :-D

    • ‘Cause West has cajones and is doing this on his own. Duh.

    • Whatever. As long as everyone gets free health care, birth control, and abortion on demand. Priorities…

    • West isn’t challenging voter fraud, he is only asking for a recount.

      -Dave

    • Allen West can challenge, as can other candidates, because individual politicians are not covered by the consent decree, only the RNC.

      • I still wonder what is the worst that could happen if RNC went public with the whole story (Newspapers,radio programs,TV news-every bit of media exposure possible),apologized for doing the same thing the Democrats had been doing and pointed out how they’ve been abusing the situation for these many years,including whatever they did to make a Judge violate his oath to an unconstitutional degree. Yeah,it’d be tough,but it’d ALSO tell America just how crooked the DNC really is,and I think it’d also gain the Republicans more than a few converts..

    • Explain how the hell West lost, Satanist.

  15. So Danielle Moore, your Profile Facebook Picture says everything we need to know about what you represent and that you love pure evil and are practicing pure evil. The Patron of FOTM is St. Michael the Archangel. Your evil is therefore powerless. I am saying a prayer for you after I sign off.

  16. Talk about lawfare and legislating from the bench… no wonder they want a lock on law and the judiciary.

  17. I say we infiltrate the Democrat party.

    • Great idea Heather. All conservatives and republicans need to exit their parties and register democrat. Then at election time just vote for the conservative or republican of their choice. The communist democrats won’t know who is who and how much fraud to plan ahead for. This will throw them into a tailspin.

      • HAHAHA!!! LOOOOOVE IT!!! I could do this, in person. On FB it would be another matter, I CANNOT stomach reading what they have to say under all their posts I’d be re-posting to make myself look good etc. And most of my friends are Patriots and the others would know it wasn’t true. so FB would fail me. In person? No sweat!

        Of course, all that matters is voting, but we don’t have open primaries in MD, so I couldn’t help any good candidate in May (not like it does any good in this state anyway – God made MD and then named its color “blue”!), but I could sure TRY and screw ‘em in Nov w/o even changing parties! (Tho it hasn’t worked yet…) Why vote only Dem in May? They have no real Americans running then, not w/o open primaries. Sucks, but that’s a brilliant idea!

  18. Yes, but what group does have standing to challenge voting? Let that group now go to work.

    And, why can’t RNC appeal that decision?

  19. Our third party friends weren’t so crazy after all. They were right that the left and the are just different sides of the same evil coin.

  20. Dr. Eowyn.. Excellent read, and very highly truthful, my question is with the appointment of Judge Joseph Greenaway, Jr., U.S. Court of Appeals, 3rd Circuit, by President Obama himself, would not this constitute a merit of some conflict in any matter?

  21. How is it possible to have a law saying you cannot challenge illegal activities? I’m no lawyer, but this sounds unconstitutional not to mention ludicrous. It does not pass the smell test.

    Follow the money. Why would ANYONE donate to a Republican if they knew the election could be stolen with no recourse? The people in a position to donate heavily to campaigns are not stupid.

    The other problem with this is that even if this happened 30 years ago, the GOP has had plenty of opportunity to fix it by passing another law to supercede it. Or to challenge it, right up to SCOTUS if necessary.

    I just don’t buy this.

  22. It would seem to me that such an agreement could be rendered null and void if the Republican Party simply PUBLICALLY renamed itself. The alleged agreement would not be enforceable against a NEW ORGANIZATION. Particularly if it publically stated that they will not be responsible for upholding any agreements made by the prior now defunct political organisation. Perhaps it is time for the Republican party to legally INCORPORATE. If it is ok for the Democrats to stack the deck then it should be ok for the Republicans to legally change their name.

    • But that means the Republican Party would have to actually admit there’s a problem, instead of keeping it a secret from Republican voters. I wonder how many state and local Republican officers and grass-root activists actually know about the 1982 RNC-DNC agreement?

  23. I simply do not believe such a thing would be enforceable. A law which states the Republican Party cannot challenge voter fraud? Laughable. This would not last 5 seconds before the Supreme Court.

    The REASON the RNC and Mitt Romney are not challenging the results is that they are cowards.

  24. In addition it seems from this ruling that the RNC could simply go to the court to get approval to charge fraud.

  25. The hell with this ruling, it is illegal suppressing the members of the GOP to contest fraud. Ignore the whole way baby tell em to stuff it the American way.

    • Hardnox,

      The ruling is against more than just the RNC. From my post above:

      The RNC also agreed that the RNC, its agents, servants, and employees would be bound by the Decree, “whether acting directly or indirectly through other party committees.”

  26. I think you broke my heart ?

  27. Isn’t that what we will be doing by posting this! Why would they want to keep it a secret from the voters anyway? Wouldn’t it help if the voters were already registered Independent before said election? Will take some time but it has to be done. One further question, how did the two Bushes manage to slip by?

  28. Maybe the long run plan is for they themselves to ditch the R party and call themselves the “Conservative” party? Like so many others here, I share in your grief for the loss of our country because it is sure to go down from here if we do not do pull a lever to switch the runaway train onto another track! I liked what someone else said about getting the Tea Party to challenge the voter fraud. Legally, THEY can do it right? Aside from that, nothing short of having Obama impeached, or tried for treason will do our country justice. Even if we can manage one of the latter, there would still be the matter of the decree to dissolve. The future is looking more scary everyday!

  29. Reblogged this on YouViewed/Editorial and commented:
    Holy S**t . Of course the idiot GOP made this grand bargain . The Tea Party and the libertarians did no such thing . It’s been obvious for quite some time who is required to lead the fight for liberty . The GOP certainly lacks the qualifications to do so .

  30. Also, I wonder if this is why Allen West is able to call for a recount…since he is of a minority…?

  31. I it is not true that Romney was leading in the 4 states in the days before the election. The polls are part of the public record and there are several sites that aggregate and average them.

  32. This is information that you will never see on the MSM.

  33. This answers my question as to why Romney did not have the guts to contest the election. It’s way more than Romney. Of course we can’t forget that there were massive signs of fraud by the GW Bush campaign in 2000. It cuts both ways.
    For quite some time I have predicted that if Romney did not pull off this election then we have seen the last GOP President. We will continue to have Republican Senators and Congressmen from “red” areas as long as some do have majority “red” demographics. However, the real Presidential election from here on will be the Democratic Primaries. The November election will only be a formality, just as it was when the Democrat machine controlled Southern states in the early to middle 20th Century.

  34. While every fiber of my being wants to dismiss this as someone’s crazy fantasy, it is the only explanation that makes any sense as to what has transpired in the last “election”. I now distrust the federal government more than ever.

  35. If the RNC can not question the vote, would it be possible for the citizens to question it, regardless of their party affiliation? Just because someone is registered Republican does not mean they work for the GOP and American citizens of either party should be entitled to a fair election.

  36. Let’s just take that baby to the Surpreme Court, I know that constitution & that’s not constitutional. Nananabooboo

  37. GOP has been a joke for a while. I always identify myself as conservative. Morons automatically think that means Republican GOP. There is a such thing as “blue dogs” but they are now rare. After the last platform announcement I can’t say I am a part of that clan. Still, think back to our founding, and you will know what I am talking about. Mark my words either party isn’t the one your grandfather supported.

  38. Republicans need to come up with a strong black leader, . This would take ;the shift away from the “ethnic” voting areas. The party needs to band together not disperse. Second must look at having Greenway removed. Third as someone said infitrate the democratic party. Finally maybe the party can’t sue, but surely the American people can? If all this is true, how do we as a people initiate a lawsuit. Any lawyers out there?

    • Jenny,

      The American people can do something — but not as a nationwide group. The residents of a constituent state can and should ask their state’s Attorney General to look into vote fraud in the 2012 election. For the name of your state’s AG, go to Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_attorney_general

      Then just copy-&-paste your AG’s name into Google search, and you’ll get your AG’s contact info.

      All 50 state attorney generals can then band together, as they did earlier this year to consider an alternate course concerning Obama’s national foreclosure agreement.

    • My post cut off too soon. Any lawyers out there that can offer advice. Is the appointment of Greenway by Obama legal/ethical. Are there proceedings that can have him removed from presiding over this decision in the future? If not what steps can the people take to have this decision reversed to allow contesting of fraud voting.

    • How about we don’t nominate based on skin color but rather the track record & current content of their character?

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  40. You are all missing one key detail: there is nothing to stop the RNC from violating this consent decree and exposing fraudulent votes. What would Judge Greenaway do…assess fines? So pay them. Would he reinstate clearly fraudulent votes? I invite him to try. DO NOT GIVE UP DAMMIT! FIGHT these bastards!

  41. Maybe i’m missing something, but it seems to me that the republicans only agreed not to police polling places similarly to what the Dems did this last election with the New Black Panthers, and to obey any/all applicable voting laws, seriously, did anyone actually read this? poll watching and poll policing aren’t the same thing, a partisan operative challenging a voter in a polling place IS intimidation!

    • Yes, you are missing something. The 1982 agreement (Consent Decree) goes beyond the RNC agreeing not to police polling places. From my post:

      (e) refrain from undertaking any ballot security activities in polling places or election districts where the racial or ethnic composition of such districts is a factor

      As modified in 1987, the Consent Decree defined “ballot security activities” to mean “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.”

      That means the RNC can’t make efforts to prevent, investigate, or contest suspected vote fraud in any and all “election districts” with a “substantial” racial/ethnic population. What “substantial” means is unclear.

      • No i read that too, what you are saying is that it is OK for a partisan operative to challenge a voter, in a polling place, during an election, accuse that voter of a crime(voter fraud), to which the voter has to proove his innocence in order for that vote to be counted… all of this after that voter has met the legal requirements to obtain the ballot, it is not OK for our side to invert the burden of proof when it suits us

        furthermore, there is nothing in what is presented here that says the repubs cannot contest ballots cast, and resulting outcomes, but again the burden of proof must lie with the accuser not the accused, if we want voter integrity at the polling places voter id laws are the way to go

  42. If any lawyers are reading this post, please get your buts in gear and start a class action on behalf of all American Voters. Use discovery to bring details to light, and civil law to bring all those groups responsible to their collective financial doom. You may not be able to reverse this election; but, you can stop this stuff from happening again, at least at this scale.

  43. i don’t believe simply infilterating the Dem Party would work as I think you have to vote Dem candidate in Presidential election right?

  44. Thank you MrObvious, great advice–my head is spinning! Had this info gotten out to our conservative media, Rush, Fox news, would we not see if they CONSIDER IT’S MERIT? The silence is deafening in America right now–It feels like the “silent majority” have been shellshocked and cowed into silence forever.

  45. If you can’t beat em (and you can’t), join em – by committing greater voter fraud yourself. Elections are a joke of who can stuff the ballot the most. So get stuffing or get stuffed.

  46. The reason they can’t do anything about election fraud is because the GOP and Romney very blatantly cheated in the GOP primaries. It would open up a whole can of worms and the public would find out Romney should have never been the GOP nominee in the first place.

  47. Awesome Idea! Abandon the GOP and give up since there is no viable alternative! Hell of an idea my man. What do you suppose we do support a third party? In the snowballs chance in a hot ovens chance that all Republicans did that do you think the Democrats would just stop cheating since the Republicans are gone?

    • We are not stupid, Dave. No one expects Democrats to stop cheating. It is in their nature.
      But a party that is not the GOP would not be bound by that 1982 Consent Decree that the RNC made. Get it?

  48. Proof? Pictures, documents, video?

  49. Now we see how a Third Party victory placing Dr Ron Paul in the WH would have been critical, with the public knowing this information about the cowards in the GOP and the Commies in the Dems…cowards and commies; that is what the public reaped from their voting..a travesty.

  50. SecondAmendmentSister

    I’ve sent a link to this article to a GOP attorney I know. I want to see what he says about this.

  51. IF this is TRUE, then How did BUSH Re-Count in FL? AND How is Allen West pushing for Re-Count NOW???

  52. Reblogged this on AaronInvestigates and commented:
    Very interesting….assuming it’s true, and I am not suggesting otherwise…it does explain quite a bit.

  53. I became a republican a couple of years ago to vote for Sarah Palin in the primaries.

    I am not staying a republican. I think we have one big corrupt government, a PPC (Permanent Political Class), and it has two halves: Republican and Democratic.

    I do not think we can fix the Republican party, unfortunately. Too much corruption on top.

    I think we have to form a third party ASAP.

  54. Dear Dr. Ewoyn,

    Just because America voted and it didn’t turn out like FOXnews was saying doesn’t mean there is voter fraud. Obama won in 2008, that wasn’t voter fraud. Is it really that hard to believe that he could win again. Not to mention your evidence isn’t really evidence at all…. of anything. You say Romney was “polling” to win those swing states. Well guess what, a poll is a statistic, and a statistic is only a sample number. In others words, polls and statistics are BULLSHIT. With that being said, just because someone says something doesn’t make it true.

    America voted, stop bitching and just go an kill yourself because quite frankly I’m sick and tired of all you political douche bags.

  55. Excellent site … I’m new here.!

  56. This is amazing stuff, just found out about it today. Right after the election Herman Cain posted on FB that we need a 3rd party. I am not a fan of 3rd parties because…they don’t win. If one was started that would bring over all the good candidates from the Republican party, Marco Rubio, Michelle Bachmann, Herman Cain just to name a few, and leave the Republicans with no good people, wouldn’t the people follow to the stronger part?? I guess at this point I can dream.

  57. I don’t understand how any of this would help. I live in AL, so no fraud here, and Romney won. I’ve also never been a registered republican. We definitely need a replacement party.

  58. How do you overcome the fact that only a Republican or a Democrat can win because of the electoral college?

  59. Ah, yes liberal trolls! No why don’t you and all you liberal trolls __ so we can have our country back? And we won’t need to have to pay for so many food stamps and obamaphones. We could spend on actual important things. Not you worthless leeches.

  60. If the Republican party had knowledge of such a Consent agreement, why would they not have tried to get it reversed long before this election? It doesn’t sound legal or even enforceable to me. It was for something other’s did years previously and should not apply to everyone following forever. It just sounds weak on every level. Cheating is wrong no matter who or how…but it still goes on.

    • Not enforceable? Why don’t you ask Appeal Judge (and Obama appointee) Joseph Greenaway, Jr. (scroll up to my article for his photo), who ruled AGAINST the latest appeal by the RNC to “vacate” (void) the 1982 Consent Decree. Why don’t you ask the original judge who presided over the 1981 lawsuit that resulted in that Consent Decree, District Judge Dickinson Debevoise, why every year he comes out of his retirement for the sole purpose of renewing the Decree for another year?

  61. Here is the problem with this writing: every political independent Representative votes with the democrats. Why was this not reversed while Bush was president or at a time when GOP had the offices of president, and or congress? GOP has issues: their GOP elites have to go because of their inability to address the real issues. Libertarians are trying to take over the party, mostly because of the drug issue, and they need to know that the GOP have many christian members and they would have to get their vote for the party to give up their conservative views that include “no pot’.
    Each time I hear ” libertarian” and smell democrat or divide and conquer.

    • That doesn’t make much sense. The MOST conservative & CLOSEST ALIGNED with the ACTUAL Repulican Party Platform are Libertarians & TEA Party People. You’re also confusing religion preferences in the practiced philosophy with what the Constitution means, upholds & who ACTUALLY does & doesn’t protect & uphold it as the Supreme Law of the Land. Again, that would be Libertarians & TEA Party People – NOT the GOP / RINO / NeoCons in office today. It would bode well for you to read “unabridged” texts over the past 100 years as to “how” & “why” NeoCons (war-mongering-liberals) left the Democrat Party & joined the Republican Party. There’s tons more, but if you really want to go down the rabbit hole, start there.

  62. All the more reason to give up caring about potus elections. Give it up! RNC doesn’t care enough to contest and win why should we?

  63. Here is a plethora of links showing how the GOP cheated in the primaries: http://jaretglenn.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/how-the-republican-party-stole-the-nomination-from-ron-paul/
    This is only for one candidate. In Iowa, Romney took lots of votes from Perry. Perry team was not expecting shenanigans and they don’t have any documentation. Could probably find it from Paul sources. Romney camp cheated big time in S.C., but Newt still won. There are some good links showing algorithms of the vote flipping in several states.

    • You cannot have it both ways. You’re either seeking to expose, regardless of personal bias, or you are not & everything you produce will be forever jaded. Ron Paul was blatantly cheated in nearly every State during the primary process. There are countless examples & documentations of phone recordings, video recordings, public statements, affidavits, etc – but you already know this. Again, to be 100% clear, you either care just as much about the GOP committing election fraud against Ron Paul as you do about the GOP allowing voter fraud with Obama or this is a big charade from your end – whether the information is truthful & factual, or not. Obviously it is – just like the Ron Paul evidence where the GOP cheated him.

  64. A restoration of the republic seems to be in line. Maybe a peaceful secession of many of the states would send a loud and clear signal to Washington and Obama that we’ve had enough. We’ll go back to small government, constitutional rule and non-deficit federal spending.

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  66. Kitty Montmorillon

    Since the agreement names the RNC specifically, it seems to be time to change the name of the RNC.

  67. I’m not doubting the claims here, as nothing really surprises me anymore. But I do have a question: considering how close the Bush-Gore election was, why didn’t the Democrats just steal that one, too?

    • Phoenix74, I don’t believe they had the software which eats itself perfected in that election. All (Dems and Rep) must be aware, it is TPTB who determine who shall win. Al Gore wasn’t their choice at that time. This is what the opposing party must learn to accept, i.e., stop the gloating, because next time their party may not be TPTB’s choice. Just as the next statewide proposition to pass, may not be their choice. This has game has serious ramifications for all voters, regardless of party affiliation.

  68. Those poor GOP partisan boys would never think of using voter fraud such as in the case of keeping Ron Paul from speaking at the convention, or use the media they control to exclude coverage of rallies for RP, noooooo way! Jerks, I chuckle when I see this junk.

  69. Forwarded to Mark Levin. He’s a constitutional lawyer. Hope to hear soon!

  70. Well if all else fail’s. There is still the fact that certian Democrat’s will pay a stiff price for Benghazi. That goes far beyond any election in importance. As for the RNC.It would appear that every elected Republican has violated their oath of Office, Unless they had no knowledge of this agreement. Therefore if the RNC cant do anything about voter fraud. I guess our best bet is to try our best to have as many Democrat’s as possible held fully responsible for Fast and Furious and Benghazi. I guess there’s not a lot that can be done about the voter fraud. I am a bit miffed about a judge that is retired, Yet can come back to the bench when ever he see’s fit to rule on one case. Sound’s a bit iffy to me. wish I could have done that after retiring from the military, Hmm i’ll go back for a year or so. and so on. Who can you trust now a day’s?

  71. Why can’t the Republicans find some other group that will expose the fraud here? It’s unthinkable that no one else cares about this.

    This agreement has to be illegal on the face of it. Why should anyone be forced to agree to allow fraud?

  72. Reblogged this on blogsense-by-barb and commented:
    Check it out, Patriots! Where do we go from here?

  73. Reblogged this on News You May Have Missed and commented:
    Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud

  74. Mrs. Wallace comment intrigued me about pushing for voter photo ID laws. Since Romney won in all states that required photo ID, some states(all the close ones) could not get photo ID laws and Obama won them all, was this law used by Holder to keep photo ID out of certain states? I kept hearing voter suppression as a reason which makes no sense to me.

    • Bob Broucher,
      I also am totally new here, however I’m from Ohio, and I had to show photo ID, it was required to vote! Same in previous elections too. Of course I’m also not thrilled with the results either, for it had been going more & more for Romney towards the end!? I’ll just sum up my true feelings, <>
      you are right, TPTB has ‘permitted’ the outcome to be what it is. What I mean by this is, I read the Good Book(Bible), it’s just a sign of the times that we are living in, those of us that believe in GOD, know that “THE END” is coming sooner than any of us could ever realize! “Look up your Redemption draweth nigh” Luke21:28 Actually Luke 21: 25-28 KJV Bible
      God Bless, get ready, HE IS COMING SOON!

      • WatcherOntheWall

        If an illegal alien, who has no Ohio I.D. wants to vote, all they have to show is a utility bill with their name, and address on it.
        Also, in Ohio, if I register as a Democrat, I can only vote in/for the Democratic candidate in the primary. The only ballot I see, during the primary, is a Democratic ballot.

  75. This article only confirms what I have thought for a long time. The only real solution is to split this country into to or more seperate nations.

  76. so what if the GOP has made an agreement with the democrats ?, the Tea Party , nor I are GOP members, and the real issue should only be , is this, or is this Not a Congressional decision if the 1/3, or 18 states fail to vote ?, the US Congress regardless of Party works for us ALL, and they cannot bargain away MY right to a fair and just election, if Congress is required to decide, what better way of putting them ALL on record as to who’s side they are on?, and nullifying the votes of the States who refuse Voter ID laws, this should be pursued at all costs…..and not just accept this as the way things are…

    • chiefcabioch;
      It doesn’t matter how one is registered to vote, the tea party only supports republican candidates….
      If you voted for president; who’s party candidate did you vote for?

  77. I’m confused. Why would checking addresses and challenging suspected fake voters be something the Reps would back down from? They agreed to such a ridiculous rule…could we put Allen West in as head of the RNC if Murphey steals the election? We need someone who’ll stand for truth in the face of any odds.

  78. The RINOpublican party was taken over by Marxists 30 years ago.

    Marxist goal 15 = mission accomplished!

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  80. This consent decree only prohibits certain types of conduct ostensibly aimed at voter fraud, where the voter fraud justification is likely just a pretext for voter suppression (i.e., “where a purpose or significant effect of such activities is to deter qualified voters from voting”). What it’s aimed at is what are regarded as overly broad efforts aimed at segments of the population that vote Democratic that could then deter legitimate voters from showing up at the polls. For instance, if the RNC makes all kinds of threats that law enforcement will be scrutinizing the voters of a particular precinct, then the guy who may be 30 days late on a child support payment might not think it’s worth the risk to try and vote when he sees off duty cops paid by the RNC swarming the parking lot of his polling place.

    This decree DOES NOT PROHIBIT other kinds of efforts to combat voter fraud, which is why RNC enlisted thousands and thousands of lawyers and other legally trained volunteers this year to man polls and challenge those voters that did not appear to be qualified (separate and apart from the Orca program, by the way). The RNC has not signed away its ability to combat voter fraud (though I agree the consent order unfairly limits certain of the tools RNC could use to find likely perpetrators in advance). Further, there is a ton of case law behind the propostion that a national party cannot encumber the activities of the state parties, as each state party is its own independently chartered organization that does not derive its authority from the RNC. Although the legal precedent might not be on the side of a state party who attempted tactics similar to those prohibited in this order, this order presents no specific legal obstacle to their doing so.

    I submit that instead of duct tape, people who buy into this should be wearing tin foil.

    That said, I do believe that fraud played a significant role in this election. Maybe not enought to change the outcome, but that’s beside the point…what matters is that every legitimate voter have his or her ballot counted, and that their votes not be canceled out by criminals taking advantage of the purposefully lax rules that Democrats have fought tooth and nail to preserve for them. When, as here in Virginia, all one needs to do to vote is register by mail without showing ID, and then show up with the registration card generated by the application and be handed a ballot, the system is fairly inviting fraud. Our aim then should be to do everything we can to institute solid photo ID requirements everywhere. To do that, we need as much solid evidence of fraud to be reported to law enforcement officials as possible, both as a means to demonstrate the political necessity for it (i.e., that we’re not just advocating a “solution without a problem”) and to document each state’s compelling interest in securing election integrity for when those ID requirements are challenged by the Obama Justice Department. If you saw something that looked like fraud, don’t just hyperventilate about it in excited generalities on the blogs…GO TALK TO YOUR LOCAL PROSECUTING ATTORNEY AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE IT IS BEING INVESTIGATED. Do your homework, document your facts, and give them a case they can’t turn away. I’ve done this, and believe we will secure at least one conviction in my locality of an OFA volunteer who trashed the registration application of a retired Marine veteran rather than see to it that the registration was submitted to our registrar in advance of the election.

    • @Steve Albertson:

      Your words are in italics; mine are in bold.

      “This consent decree only prohibits certain types of conduct ostensibly aimed at voter fraud…”
      “This decree DOES NOT PROHIBIT other kinds of efforts to combat voter fraud…”

      Wow, reading your long screed, I no longer know just what you believe and not believe. Have you actually read the Consent Decree? Did you actually read the appeals judge’s 59-page ruling in March 2012, which I had embedded in this article?

      “Further, there is a ton of case law behind the propostion that a national party cannot encumber the activities of the state parties, as each state party is its own independently chartered organization that does not derive its authority from the RNC. Although the legal precedent might not be on the side of a state party who attempted tactics similar to those prohibited in this order, this order presents no specific legal obstacle to their doing so.”

      From “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” March 8, 2012, Case No. 09-4615, pp. 9, 10-11:

      In 1990, the District Court found that the RNC violated the Consent Decree by failing to give the state parties guidance on unlawful practices under the Consent Decree or copies of the Decree when the RNC gave them ballot security instructional and informational materials. The Court held that the RNC must provide a copy of the Consent Decree, or information regarding unlawful practices under the Consent Decree, along with any such instructional or informational materials that the RNC distributes in the future to any state party.

      In 2004, the RNC asserted that the Ohio Republican Party…not subject to the [Consent] Decree. [...] Following an evidentiary hearing, the District Court…rejected the RNC’s argument [and]…found that the RNC had violated the procedural and substantive provisions of the Consent Decree by participating with the Ohio Republican Party in devising and implementing the ballot security program and failing to obtain preclearance for the program.

      Then you insult me with “people who buy into this should be wearing tin foil,” while in the next breath you write “That said, I do believe that fraud played a significant role in this election.”

      I really expect better from a Skadden antitrust attorney, at the least, more professionalism and less gratuitous insult.

    • AJG, Ph.D. & Professor

      Steve Albertson:

      In my judgment, your reply to the post “Why the GOP won’t challenge vote fraud” was interesting for several reasons: It was ostensibly a critique of the substance of the post. That turns out not to be the case. It was, in fact, a reinforcement of its contentions. It was a confirmation of its substantive claims. Your comments essentially suggest methods through which the issue (which you admit is genuine) might better be addressed. You agree that the consent decree was “ostensibly” (your characterization) intended to protect the voting rights of “segments of the population that vote Democratic,” while, in fact, “it unfairly limits some of the tools the RNC could use to find likely perpetrators in advance” (your words). The result has been “that fraud played a significant role in this election” (your words).

      Even though the RNC “enlisted thousands and thousands of lawyers and other legally trained volunteers to man polls and challenge those voters that did not appear to be qualified” (yours words) there was fraud, because of the “purposely lax rules” (your words) that have resulted from the atmosphere created by the consent decree. So we find that the consent decree has accomplished precisely what the post stated. The “thousands and thousands of lawyers” sent by the RNC to offset fraud were ineffectual. You also suggest the reason. The consent decree has a chilling effect. It is vaguely articulated so that the state parties, individually and severally, fear litigation initiated by the Justice Department (that the national party may not be prepared to fund). Even though the current arrangement (thanks to the consent decree) “invites fraud” (your words), the state parties are loathe to enter into what could be venomous, protracted, and expensive litigation.

      Finally, even though you agree with the substance of the post, instead of lending your support and advancing your suggestions on how the problem can be effectively addressed—you proceed to gratuitous insult. It would seem to me that you unnecessarily made yourself part of the problem when you might well have been part of the solution.

      • Dr. AJG,

        With respect, I think you’re missing my point. The title of the post and the wild statements about the GOP agreeing not to try to ensure voter integrity or pursue voter fraud, etc., are hyperbolic scare mongering designed to support the the author’s conclusions (that the Republican Party is “dead”) and recommended course of action (quit the GOP and stop supporting it). I disagree with the author’s conclusions, but realize it is nonetheless a valid viewpoint…just not for the reasons set forth in the post.

        You are correct that I believe the GOP’s election integrity efforts have been ineffectual (obviously). You’re also correct that my statements imply a chilling effect from this consent decree (and other Voting Rights Act cases) that has harmed the GOP. But in this discussion, the key fact is that there ARE Republican election integrity efforts, and the right to pursue those was not bargained away in any agreement with the Democrats, a fact that is self-evident to anyone who worked the election in a swing state on election day. The purpose of this post is to leave the impression there are not such efforts (“The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.”). So no, I most emphatically do not agree with the substance of the post.

        Again, respectfully, I do believe I am part of the solution. I, and others in my local GOP and local Tea Party, are focused on trying to document election abuses locally, and ensure prosecution where possible. Hard evidence in criminal voter fraud proceedings is the best ammunition we have in the fight to address the root problem, which is purposefully lax voter ID laws.

        • AJG, Ph.D. & Professor

          Mr. Albertson. Thank you for your reply. If I missed your point, it is because your point was never clearly stated. You have political objections to the post in question –to which you are entitled—but in your angry reproof you suggested you had substantive criticism. In fact, you have no objection to the characterization of the effects of the consent decree—you just wish that the post had not drawn from it what you take to be objectionable political conclusions. It is there that the discussion should take place, conducted without rancor or abuse. The writers of the FOTM work tirelessly, without material compensation, for love of country—in defense of its economic viability and its moral integrity. If you must use insult, please direct it at those who oppose those values instead of their defenders.

          • No, I most pointedly did not make a political objection. The author is perfectly entitled to his political stance that the GOP is dead and should be abandoned (a point I do not engage), but he is not entitled to make up his own facts to serve that political purpose.

            My objection is factual. The author states that the GOP has a 30-year-old agreement with the Democrat party “NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud,” and that the reason the RNC has been “strangely silent” on voter fraud after the election is this consent decree. This is objectively false, and when paired with the author’s desired conclusions, is irresponsible. The dedicated patriots reading this site deserve better.

            Clear enough for a PhD?

            • Now, not only have you insulted Professor AJG (“Clear enough for a PhD?”), who had only been polite with you, you’ve added a third insult directed at me (“irresponsible”) on top of your previous two insults.

              Note that in all this time, for 4.5 hours since you first commented at 1:05pm today, while lobbing insult after insult, you strangely have chosen NOT to answer my and Joandarc’s questions — questions that are not rancorous but entirely proper and reasonable:

              1. Have you actually read the Consent Decree?
              2. Did you read the appeals judge’s 59-page ruling in March 2012, which I had embedded in this article?
              3. Which specific provisions in the Consent Decree allow the RNC to continue to fight against voter fraud and/or to preclude voter fraud and/or to expose voter fraud so that it might be rectified?
              4. Under the Consent Decree, specifically what options are open to the RNC to intervene when there is voter fraud?
              5. How do you interpret this 1987 modification to the Consent Decree: “the Decree defined ‘ballot security activities’ to mean ‘ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud‘”?
              6. Why is it that you — an attorney — NEVER cite or quote from the actual Consent Decree or the 2012 appeals judge’s ruling, but instead merely assert your unsubstantiated and unsourced opinions?
              7. What would you call the GOP keeping this Consent Decree from the tens of millions of voters who had dutifully trotted to our respective voting stations on Nov. 6 to cast our votes for Romney-Ryan, only to discover our votes mean nothing in the face of Democrat vote fraud and the GOP’s inaction?
              8. Please give us just ONE example of the national GOP contesting the 2012 election result on the basis of vote fraud.

              I wonder what Skadden Arps thinks of its employee behaving as you have on FOTM today. I don’t think they’ll be proud of you.

              As you yourself indicated in your comment to Prof. Gregor, what really got you upset about my post is my conclusion that the GOP is dead and my recommendation that we stop registering ourselves as Republicans because doing so is a waste of our money and dedication. That’s at the root of your attacks. You’re a political operative with vested interests in the GOP, and this post about the RNC’s Consent Decree with the DNC is a threat to the GOP’s status quo.

              https://www.skadden.com/professionals/steven-albertson
              .

            • You’re pretty committed to the tyranny exposed here, huh? To be more specific, other than to perpetuate it – Why is it that you won’t directly address the facts & instead provide never-ending strawman debate & strawman counterpoints?

    • Steve Albertson:

      Thank you for your input; however, your unwarranted insults regarding tin foil, conspiracy theories and the like demean you; insults do not help you, nor do they help us to deal with the fraud at hand. If any attorney who came before me in my administrative hearings ever had a style of insulting adversaries, I threw them out of my hearings.

      That being said, you disagree with the interpretation of the Consent Decree at issue. Please set out then, the specific provisions from the Consent Decree that you are referring to so that we may understand exactly your position. Which specific provisions allow the RNC to continue to fight against voter fraud and/or to preclude voter fraud and/or to expose voter fraud so that it might be rectified? And, under the Consent Decree, specifically what options are open to the RNC to intervene when there is voter fraud?

    • Steve Albertson’s purpose is clear: he wants to twist what has been said in this post in order to cause a credibiity problem. Nevertheless, his itchy-switchy statements back and forth, wherein he says one thing in opposition and right away castigates what he has just said then showing support of the position, is a material fallacy to create confusion for the readers. In my hearings, I used to deal with this approach from attorneys on a consistent basis, the use of material fallacies, and I recognize what this man has tried to do; but he has failed. The National Judicial College staff taught us about the use of material fallacies and how to recognize them: it is a means to take the clear issue in a matter away, and muddy it with emotion and other irrelevant issues. His insults are a part of this process. Not once has Steve Albertson ever provided actual quotations from the Order, which is the Consent Decree, to back up his position. At no time has he answered any of my questions by citing the appropriate provisions within the Decreem setting out what avenues are open for the RNC to pursue the voter fraud in this election. If he was genuinely concerned about the voter fraud in this election, he would have answered all of my questions as well as all of Dr. Eowyn’s questions with specific citations. He ought to know by now that his mere opinion is meaningless; he must substantiate his conclusions with specific citations from the Consent Decree and/or any other relevant Orders. So, take him with a grain of salt.

  81. We need to beg Mitt Romney to save the country and contest the election results after demanding full recounts of FL, PA & OH to prove he won and expose the Dictator & Chief as the Hoax he is. http://www.lisamichaels.org/2012/11/its-not-people-who-vote-that-count.html#links

    • Uhhhhhh…what? Did you seriously ignore every fact that’s pointed out about the GOP & what they’ve done for 30+ years? Your well-thought & deduced plan of action is to completely ignore all of the 30+ year culpability of the GOP & instead, you want “Mitt Romney” to save us?

  82. Not a gratuitous insult, a pointed and valid one. You’re peddling conspiracy-theory style paranoia here by stating that the RNC is prohibited from doing anything to combat voter fraud. You write, “The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.”

    That’s utter nonsense. They are prohibted from underaking certain activities that would tend to deter legitimate voters, when those activities are either aimed at or disproportionately affect minorities. I agree that the prohibition as applied is overbroad, and captures too much of what I think is legitimate voter fraud detection/monitoring behavior, but it does not speak to all kinds of other ballot integrity efforts, which the RNC and the state parties have clearly been doing throughout the life of the decree.

    • Wow. Now you’ve added yet another insult (“You’re peddling conspiracy-theory style paranoia here“) on top of your previous “tin foil” insult. Way to go, antitrust attorney.

      From “Democratic National Committee v Republican National Committee,” March 8, 2012, Case No. 09-4615, pp. 7-8:

      In the 1982 Decree, the RNC had agreed to specific restrictions regarding its ability to engage in “ballot security activities,” but that Decree did not define the term “ballot security activities.” (App. at 401.) As modified in 1987, the Decree defined “ballot security activities” to mean “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.” Democratic Nat’l Comm., 671 F. Supp. 2d at 581. The modifications clarified that the RNC “may deploy persons on election day to perform normal poll watch[ing] functions so long as such persons do not use or implement the results of any other ballot security effort, unless the other ballot security effort complies with the provisions of the Consent Order and applicable law and has been so determined by this Court.” (App. at 405.) The modifications also added a preclearance provision that prohibits the RNC from assisting or engaging in ballot security activities unless the RNC submits the program to the Court and to the DNC with 20 days’ notice and the Court determines that the program complies with the Consent Decree and applicable law.

      How do you interpret “the Decree defined ‘ballot security activities’ to mean ‘ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud‘”?

      And why is it that you — an antitrust attorney — NEVER cite or quote from the actual Consent Decree or the 2012 appeals judge’s ruling, but instead spout off your contradictory opinions (RNC is prohibited from undertaking only certain activities vs. the prohibition as applied is too broad), whereas I — a humble retired professor — cite from the actual relevant legal document?

      As for your “conspiracy-theory style paranoia” insult, what would YOU call the GOP keeping this Consent Decree from the tens of millions of voters who had dutifully trotted to our respective voting stations on Nov. 6 to cast our votes for Romney-Ryan, only to discover our votes mean nothing in the face of Democrat vote fraud and the GOP’s inaction? Regarding the latter, please give us just ONE example of the national GOP contesting the 2012 election result on the basis of vote fraud.

  83. Consent decree aside the RNC is in bed with the DNC in so many other ways that it makes no difference. The remedy could be in place any time that the will surfaces. Maybe too many RINOS??
    The RNC and the NV RSC kept harry reid in office. Sharon Angle was ridiculed and marginalized in the same manner that Palin was. One should keep in mind that the POTUS can only ratify what congress originates. Free phones started with Bush 2. NDAA was passed with 97% of both houses. Would anyone disagree that all of the 535 see themselves as potential supreme leaders??
    Please note that 8 year terms lately are very common.Carter and Bush 1 being the recent exceptions. (Hostage Crisis & Read my lips/ Perot) Mitt was not slated to win. Only to make a better showing than McCain. 2 in a row like that would have been too revealing. A good charade is better if somewhat believable.
    The debates were staged with a Mitt hands down slaughter in #1 and then???????? wtf.
    If anyone thinks that any of this is left to chance maybe a review or closer attention will help. Yes Bush 2 won 2 terms. That was the agreement even though hated by the MSM and slandered daily. Ask,” how is that possible?” Answer: agreement! Close? You bet. Corrupt hanging chads? You bet. How to keep the agreement? Supreme Ct. (How to keep slick willy in office? Same answer.) Whatever happened to “separation of power?” Senator Clark who Clark County NV was named after (Think Las Vegas) when accused of bribery said ” I never bought a man who wasn’t for sale.” Is campaign finance “reform” a joke. Yes from BOTH parties.
    Relax, it is all going according to the plan.

  84. This does not explain the election of 2000, does it? Bush certainly challenged Gore and the long drawnout court process & recounts followed! There was plenty of evidence of Dems cheating–boxes of ballots found in Dem election official’s car, boxes thrown in the ocean and washed up to shore; the chad nonsense.

  85. I find this unbelievable and cannot in my mind take it as truth. How did other republicans win, besides Bush, father and son and Reagan etc. Many times before we had recounts. I think it’s time for the courts to do something about the voter fraud. It’s only been bad like this for the last eight years. I think it’s because Obama is so corrupt and evil that he will do anything to keep in power. Maybe he’ll be impeached for the crime he committed in the Libya attack.

    • You need to ACCEPT the TRUTH that is pointed out in this article & STOP “THINKING” it was the last 8 years. It may be a hard pill to swallow, but that will only be temporary. Once you really go down the rabbit hole, accepting that this information is FACTUAL & not “Thinking” instead about what you “want” or would “feel good” to be factual. Accepting this will seem as basic as counting to ten or writing your name after you do that.

  86. Our 2nd Amendment rights become ever more important!!

  87. Republicans need to quit playing nicey. They need to learn to kick the Democrats in the balls. The problem with Washington, we are having a hard time finding Republicans who will kick these JACKASSES IN THE BALLS.

  88. WE ARE NOT DONE YET!!

    This election does not get decided until Mid-December when the Electoral College cast their votes.

    According to Article II of the U.S. Constitution AND the 12th Amendment – if 1/3rd of the States do not cast their votes in the Electoral College — then
    the matter falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the President. In other words — if we pressure Congressmen, State Party Officials, and groups such as Tea Party Patriots, Heritage Foundation, etc., to call on RED States to NOT have their Electors cast their vote — then the House of Reps CAN choose the next President!!!!!

    The democrats are stealing this election and it is up to WE, the people, to put the hammer down on their widespread vote-fraud. The founding-fathers gave us the Electoral College for several reasons. Vote-Fraud is one of those reasons. But it is up to us to hold tightly to the Constitution. If we don’t – then we are just as guilty as those who would ignore it.

    The Constitution can stop the socialist machine in its’ tracks. But it is up to YOU to get on the phone and make some noise. Please call your State Party Officials, your Congressmen, and any political groups or organizations ASAP.

    WE do not elect the President. The Electoral College elects the President. But if enough of them do not cast their vote – then the responsibility falls onto the House of Representatives to choose the next President.

    MAKE THE CALLS!!! If just 17 RED States agreed to NOT cast their votes in the electoral college – then it goes to the House. And if pressured – they just might do it.

    We do NOT have to convince ANY democrats – at all. All we have to do is convince 1/3 of the States to NOT cast their electoral college votes. Well more than 1/3 of the States did in fact vote as RED States. And they too can see the obvious, wide-spread vote-fraud which has taken place.

    So, if the Electors in 17 States which Romney won decided to NOT cast their electoral college votes — then the electoral college does not meet the requirement as defined in the Constitution. And in such a case, the electoral college is thereby null and void. The matter then goes to the House.

    In every State, each political party chooses its’ own “electors”. Then, whichever party wins the popular vote in each State is the party which gets to have its’ electors cast their vote in the electoral college.

    However, according to the Constitution and the 12th Amendment, in order for the Electoral College to have a quorum – then at least 2/3rds of the States must cast their votes.
    As stated in the Constitution and the 12th Amendment: “A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States,”

    So, if 1/3 of the States (17) do NOT cast their electoral college votes – then it goes to the House of Representatives (not the senate) to elect the next President.

    YES!! WE CAN DO THIS!! GET THE WORD OUT!! AND MAKE SOME CALLS!!

  89. SHAMEFUL!

    • Our ELECTED OFFICIALS move at SNAIL pace, whenever they need to deal on anything that requires work. That would dig into their GOLFING TIME!!! These same members been doing something about VOTER FRAUD since President Clinton been in office. Has anything been solved?

  90. Guessing perhaps this is why no one from the GOP (unless I missed something ?) never complained about our military not getting their ballots on time either . I wondered why they did not seem to care when Obama was suing Ohio to keep absentee ballots from being sent to our military men and women, and why no one was speaking up about ballots not arriving on time for our military men and women to vote !! I am even more outraged now, than ever !!!! Absolutely shameful and disgusting that we have clearly lost our country to a bunch of lawless and corrupt crooks and theives , who no longer care about our Constitution or our freedoms !!

  91. This is crazy!! Where there is a will there is a way!! As a U.S. citizen I will not aloy that Muslim to ruin my country for 4 more years!! The people have other ways besides voting we will find away to stop that muslim from doing more damage!!!

  92. Reblogged this on Red in a Blue State and commented:
    How to respond when one political party has their hands tied because a few actors were overzealous in their attempt to eliminate voter fraud? By doing so and not fighting the gross miscarriage of the rule of law, they have foisted the result of their lack of ethics on the rest of the nation. I will no longer be a part of this party and would encourage all others to take a look at what we need to do to clean house. This abrogation of the party to make sure their members were aware of it shows that while the party is indeed ripe for house cleaning, it will be instead be necessary to tear the whole structure down and rebuild it from the foundation up.

  93. Elizabeth Beaver

    I am sick and tired of the powers that be bargaining away our rights in secret!

  94. this agreement has no effect on the Tea Party, we are not the GOP, nor the Democrats, so this Agreement doesnt affect us, we should pursue the fraud charges as ourselves…..

  95. This Consent Decree only covers efforts to keep voters out of the polling places. Too many voters for Obama weren’t the problem, too few votes counted for Romney were.
    Ballot box stuffing – multiple votes, dead people’s votes, illegal’s votes, etc – would have resulted in more votes for Obama than in ’08, especially since the outlook for Republican votes was that it would be greater than for McCain, who was not appealing to conservatives. Romney got fewer and so did Obama but still enough, and in key states, to come out ahead.
    The fraud, IMO, was that Democrats manged, either by not reporting or voting machine manipulation, to lower the number of Republican votes on a State-wide basis, in heavily Democratic precincts, to tip the Electoral and Senate, scales.
    The Democrat’s fight against voter ID and cleansing of the voter rolls was classic mis-direction from their scheme.
    Withdrawing from the GOP and denying funding will just ensure the Democrats will be able to win without fraud, because ther is no viable alternative.

    • “Withdrawing from the GOP and denying funding will just ensure the Democrats will be able to win without fraud, because ther is no viable alternative.”

      And how would staying in the GOP — a party that handcuffed itself on vote integrity and vote fraud — help?

      • All we need to do is make sure all 50 states, plus any new states that come into the nation, are supplied with voter ID to deter most if not all attempts at voter fraud (you know, bussing foreigners and registering them just to vote for the election, repeat voting, dead voting, the usual tactics). That way, even IF we fail to repeal the 1982 provision (and believe me, the real problem is with the provision. Get rid of that, which as you pointed out is most likely the ONLY reason the GOP isn’t able to do the thing against the Democrats’ blatant voting fraud, and the GOP will make darn certain to fight back, having nothing holding them back), we can at least ensure that the national courts cannot enforce the provision if the state and local communities all have Voter ID laws in place. Heck, my state, a Voter ID state, was easily won by Romney, so all we really need to do is implement voter ID throughout the states, push for voter ID until each of the states has them. The swing states are especially important.

        And I’m speaking as an independent voter. I did vote for the RNC in 2008 and 2012, although only because the RNC actually had values that both they and I supported (ie, they were pro-life), while Obama clearly didn’t. Heck, had Randall Terry, a Democrat, and one of the few Pro-Life democrats, ran for election, I would have just as easily voted for him.

        If we get rid of the GOP, all we’re really doing is ensuring a one-party government. I don’t actually support the GOP, nor am I even a member, as I’ll state again, but we need to make sure we don’t hand the country to the DNC on a silver platter, either, which cutting funding to the GOP will most certainly do. We’ve already got multiple third parties, and none of them have actually won a national election. Try pushing for Voter ID in all fifty states, or at the very least the swing states. That at least will ensure the Democrats can’t use voter fraud to get their way even if they wanted to. Best to actually create a deterrent. May seem Cold War to you, but I preferred the deterrence approach.

  96. NO it doesn’t. If this is the holdup on challenging at LEAST Pennsylvania, then why didn’t the Romney team say so? The suit is a matter of public record isn’t it? Did I miss some non-disclosure section? Please help me understand this.

  97. This is all well and good but this law does not prohibit other groups or persons from investigating vote fraud. What happened in 2000? They GOP fought hard for a fair vote count after Gore tried to hijack three Florida counties. Allen West is challenging his election results. Is he not bound by this court case? He’s a member of the RNC, is he not? If the RNC wants to challenge and they need a court order, all they have to do is go to a friendly judge, the way democRats do to get their way.

  98. No wonder the DNC is so dead set against voter ID and why it is so important to have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  99. All of you that see this as a problem and are throwing you hands up in the air saying nothing can be done are wrong. As long as you or your group does not fit within these guidelines andyou are not making this a national effort your in the clear, its agents, servants, and employees would be bound by the Decree, “whether acting directly or indirectly through other party committees.”
    Work at the State level as a private citizen, it can be done!!!!!!

  100. “how would staying in the GOP — a party that handcuffed itself on vote integrity and vote fraud — help?”

    Articles like these, which advocate that people leave the Republican party, are very welcome news to the Democrap party.

    The Republican party is not the enemy here, people. The leftists and secular “progressives” and Communists in the Democrap party are the enemies of America !

    Leaving the Republican party because of this article would absolutely be the WORST response to reports of voter fraud by the Dems !

    • c428,

      You missed the whole point of my post. I never said the Republican Party is the enemy of conservatives. What I did say is that the 1982 Consent Decree that the RNC made with the DNC effectively gives the Democrats a blank check to commit vote fraud by neutering the GOP’s ability to both prevent vote fraud and remedy vote fraud after fraud has taken place. Given that, how would staying in the Republican Party help? On the contrary, staying in the GOP simply:

      1. Gives the GOP the green light to continue doing business as they have.
      2. Ensures our votes mean nothing, which is what happened on Nov. 6, 2012.
      3. Ensures the Democrats winning the national presidential elections henceforth.

      The least you should have said is to enjoin us to stay in the Republican Party BUT ONLY IF THE GOP:

      1. Admits to the existence of the Consent Decree.
      2. Tells us how it means to counter the constraints the Decree has imposed on the RNC.
      3. Undertakes true reform of the Republican Party.

  101. SecondAmendmentSister

    Is this law firm any relation to the Judge Debevoise who comes out of retirement annually to keep this charade going? http://www.debevoise.com

  102. All Stalwart Conservatives and other Citizens of Good Conscience need remember this: General George Washington’s army shrank from a force of 20,000 enlistees to 5,000 men after the Battle of Brooklyn Heights where the Hessians gave no quarter and overwhelmed the American Army. Yet, it was this small contingent that overcame the British – the greatest military force in the world at that time. In addition, only a small percentage of the colonists cared enough about the struggle for independence, and the punishments awaiting enemies of the British King were so gruesome and barbaric, I shan’t mention them here.
    I prefer to recall the admonition of Winston Churchill, that if we do not fight when the odds are in our favor, we may have to fight when they are not, and failing this, we may have to fight when we have no hope of success at all.
    Let us all stand together. God Bless and Protect America, My Country.

  103. This all needs to be put into a short paragraph or two to send around internet, facebook, etc.
    Most people are not going to take the time to wade through it all and reach
    a conclusion.

  104. The Republican Party made an agreement 30 years ago with the Democrat Party NOT to ensure voting integrity and NOT to pursue suspected vote fraud.

  105. I can’t believe a lawyer can’t challenge this and I can’t believe that Mitt Romney can’t afford a lawyer to do it. Allen West did it! I have no legal background but here’s an idea – have the lawyer say he represents Mitt personally and is not acting on behalf of the RNC. Here’s another idea: Say that entire STATES committed fraud, not just “ethnically enhanced wards” or whatever they called it.

    This is of URGENT importance – 3 Supreme Court Justices are about to retire or die at any minute and once Obama puts his Muslim Brothers in there the Constitution is dead. Obama will probably write a new Constitution making the presidency a life term, firing everyone who is against him, and filling up all power positions with his cronies (which he’s already started doing). There will be no way to fight after that.

    We still have until Dec. 17th when the electoral college submits its votes (and our Constitution is still valid) so Reince, Mitt, Paul Ryan, etc. should be ON FIRE to get a recount done before then! Obviously they’ve all shrugged and gone home though so we must do it for them. The last straw I’ve heard of is for everyone to write to the Senators and Representatives of all the Red states (where Romney won) and tell them not to submit ANY electoral votes on Dec. 17th. There’s a law that if there are not enough electoral votes submitted, the president is chosen by the House of Representatives. Here’s a link to the article about it: http://breakingobama.blogspot.com/2012/11/breaking-news-legal-loophole-found-to.html?spref=fb

    Please pass that around – if we flood them with emails and calls maybe they’ll do it.

  106. Here’s another interesting article – it says that states don’t need a petition or permission from the federal government to secede. If they want to do it, they can just do it! http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/51147#When:13:00:07Z

  107. I need to really study this.
    But, 1st reaction? HURRY WITH THE DUCT TAPE.

  108. Finally, 5 days I’d first published this and 7 days after PolitiJim of Gulag Bound published his, someone in the conservative establishment media has finally picked up this story. It’s WND. Scroll up to my “Update” at the end of my article above!

  109. Thank you for your labor of love. Maybe he’s the anti-christ after all, but I dont think it lines up with bible prophecy. Maybe he’s just a forerunner to get people used to someone like his nature. Ever done a comparison between him & Hitler. Scary.

  110. Question: Are not (at least) some of the 22 cases of voting fraud, especially in Philadelphia, reason enough to submit a complaint to a (e.g.,Pennsylvania) State grand jury? Are there any lawyers who can advise us upon this issue and expedite the process? It would seem that certain advocacy groups like Judicial Watch, TrueTheVote etc. would be on top of this problem…

  111. Excellent journalism shared where it will do the most good!

  112. Reblogged this on On The Range and commented:
    Unbelievable…or is it?

  113. One possible reason why the GOP isn’t doing everything they can to stop voter fraud: it’s their bread-n-butter!

    http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/early-voting-curbs-called-power-play/nTFDy/

    Love,
    Crusty

  114. We will never have an honest election again in this country.

    That sounds harsh, but it’s an open secret that in the 2008 elections, ACORN produced at least twenty million absentee ballots from “Mr. Zig Zag” and “Mr. Crack Pipe,” of no fixed address, with no Social Security numbers or any other proof of their existence. The Republican Party, shamelss, worthless, ball-less worms that they are, never made so much as a peep of protest.

    There were Black Panthers with billy clubs at the polls threatening white voters, and doing it right in front of TV cameras. You can still find the videos on Youtube. Nobody, as far as I can determine, gave a damn.

    The Democrats embraced Chicago-style electoral fraud decades ago. You probably remember the reports from the 1990 election–1990, 20+ years ago–that Democratic Party “volunteers” went into every psych-ward in Bellvue (one of the bigger nuthouses on Manhattan Island–not as big as City Hall, though) and cattle-prodded tens of thousands of mumbling, drooling, doped-up crazies onto city buses, then herded them through the polls to put their hands on the lever with the big shiny “D” on it. Some intrepid news reporter happened to see this bizarre procession, and asked one of the crazies what was going on. The response was “Bowlin’! We goin’ bowlin'” as his minder stepped into the booth with him to help him vote for Dinkins.

    Likewise, the wetback invasion continues at the rate of two million per year. There are now 30+ million Mexicans in the US. Fewer than 5% have either legitimate citizenship or a valid Green Card. But they vote. Guess whom they vote for. C’mon, guess. The fact that they are here illegally and vote illegally doesn’t appear to matter to anyone anywhere. Question it and you are “RAAAAAAAAAAAAAACIST.”

    The ballot box is broken, my friend. It was broken before many of your readers were born. What is to be done now, the nature of our duty as citizens, can only be between each man and his conscience.

  115. This country truely is becoming a maxist dictatorship !! I believe civil war is the only answer to save america !! earlier the better later maybe to late for america !!

  116. Can this be true?

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  118. I want to thank you and everyone who works on your site for all your hard work.. to awaken humanity as to what reality truly is… as for the naysayers aka danielle moore and others. i would completely ignore them.. ignorance is blissful for some but not those of us who know we were not born to be enslaved to anyone. and who are willing to fight anyway we can to keep it from happening.. again GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND THANK YOU SO MUCH

  119. So all of the wording in the legal decision was for the RNC to agree to not participate in voter fraud prevention BEFORE an election so as to not interfere with proper casting of ballots. I’m not seeing any language where this legal agreement prevents the RNC from challenging suspected fraud after an election has occurred. Please help me out here, what am I missing?

    • Kevin,

      The Consent Decree was modified in 1987, to define the original Decree’s language of “ballot security activities” to mean “ballot integrity, ballot security or other efforts to prevent or remedy vote fraud.”

      To “remedy” vote fraud implies (1) an election has occurred; (2) vote fraud is suspected; but (3) the RNC is constrained from doing anything (“remedy”) about it.

      • All we really need to do is either repeal the Consent Decree, or at least the 1987 modification, or otherwise make sure all states, or at the very least the swing states, have Voter ID to ensure that the DNC CAN’T do voter fraud even if they wanted to.

        Well, at least we can still impeach Obama, and since his crimes in office have been published in Impeachable Offenses, there’s no way Obama can get out of that. There’s already murmurs of the GOP-controlled House planning impeachment proceedings after the 2014 elections, and even the DNC is fully aware Obama cannot get out of impeachment proceedings, based on the fact that emails were sent stating that they must elect the DNC to the House, explicitly stating that Obama will end up undergoing impeachment charges otherwise.

  120. Could this possibly be fought and defeated from a Constitutional level? I can’t imagine this “agreement being in accordance with the US Constitution.
    So-was this agreement done to avoid prosecution of some conservatives for voter fraud? They should have just fessed up and fallen on their swords-instead they sold the ENTIRE COUNTRY out.

    • You know, we have to stop calling one another Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives and come to an agreement. Ans that is, that both of these parties are nothing but corrupted shameless fucks, If you believe anything different your part of the problem and you will have no one to blame for it but yourselves.Like this Obama idiot, so he gets to the senate in 2006, I never heard of this fool, Then two years late hes president. You have to be a complete brain dead fool to believe that to be possible other than by voter fraud means. I seriously mean it, please you have to be a complete jack ass to think this guy is someone special. The puppet master and his followers put this idiot in the house because they new he is stupid enough to control, and the public was stupid enough to believe in him. Either we come together and retake our Country back all of as Americans and oust the corruption we have in our Government. Or we are all headed to shit in a hand bag/ Wake UP ! Wake Up America!!!!!

      • I keep hearing through another source that O,Pelosi,Reid and a bunch of others are to be taken out of American positions of power;(originally it was to be arrests,but it sounds like now there’s to be “subtle Resignations”. Whatever-I’ll believe it when I see it. Though I don’t relish Biden as acting President,I doubt he’d be as destructive as O is. There’s just so much going on here,on so many different levels,it’s enough to make a simple mind like mine explode.

  121. Another option,which might have been addressed earlier bit I missed it (I’m trying to get over a cold before it becomes Pneumonia);
    How important is the NAME of the Party you support? Since this “agreement subverts any chance of a fair Election for the Republicans,what if we shift our support to the Tea Party,and leave the RINO segment to keep carrying the Republican flag (or sheltering Obama from the sun,or whatever they do with it.) I believe there are still a lot of Republicans who would be good choices,including DeMint,Palin,both Pauls,Bachmann,see where I’m going with this? This might be a great chance to weed out a lot of what’s dragged the Conservatives down for years and bring in support for a group we (as Republicans) have become a “Lite” version of. I know-sounds extreme,but I said before the LAST election and believe it even MORE now,America NEEDS extreme! Personally,It matters not a bit to me if the Party I support is named Republican or Tea Party,it’s all about what the PARTY supports,and the LIBERALS are as far from those things as I am from the Sun.

    • Good ideas, Speed. The Republican Party will never win a presidential election, saddled with this 1982 Consent Decree. But the two-party system is so entrenched in the very infrastructure of our political system, that it is notoriously difficult for a third party to be genuinely viable. It will need a lot of rethinking, effort, money, and leadership. Alas, the GOP establishment — including conservative media stars like Limbaugh, Hannity, & Levin — are all ignoring the reality of this Consent Decree. Until they do, no 3rd party by whatever name will be successful.

      I hope you get better from that nasty cold real soon! (Are you taking Zicam?)

      • I’m not suggesting a more-thantwo-party system as much as trading the hamstrung Republican Party for the relatively clean-n-unscathed Tea Party. They ARE after the same basic ideals as the Republicans,though a more pure version and more aggressive stance,which is exactly what America needs now,and I think,by this time next year most of Conservative America will be ready to go where they need to go,to bring the US Constitution back into the foreground. I think,once the new Party starts making some headway,Hannity and Rush will start paying attention and getting more on board. Remember,they’ve been champions of the Republicans for all this time because they AREN’T Democrats,and the Tea Party was still an upstart they considered likely to fade away. The Tea Party has been holding its own,but needs much more name recognition,and a “who’s who” list of people known to be steadfast Constitutionalists (Republicans,Independents and even undecideds) who are willing to step up and help “We The People” take the Government back. I hate like hell to throw a Republican under the bus,but most all these “Career Politicians” haven’t been true Republicans for a good while now,and it’s not that they haven’t been told to get their acts together or pack their grips.
        I’m brittle Diabetic and have Asthma and Emphysema,so I have to be careful what I take. This always plays elevator-head cold,chest cold,head cold,chest cold,etc. As long as it stays out of my chest except for short visits I’ll be okay eventually. So far,a big mug of 500 mile coffee first thing in the AM,then vitamins,lots of OJ,hot green tea with honey,soups,etc. seems to be getting me there. Staying indoors and sleeping a lot helps too. 6 days in,and probably another 4 or 5 before I’m back on track. Thanks for your concern,Dr.

      • [conservapedia.com/main_page Conservapedia] just used your article today, alongside [http://politichicks.tv/column/heres-why-the-rnc-has-been-so-silent-about-rampant-voter-fraud/#aejyKzSQ6R63guAO.99 this article] in its news section, so don’t give up hope about it. It’s being exposed, and I’m pretty sure more will be exposed soon.

        And if we have Voter ID in all fifty states (and any new states that join the country, not to mention), or at the very least the swing states, that will make the provision unenforceable by the DNC (as the provision can’t work on state or individual elections), and plus, laws can be repealed, so all we really need to do is either push for the law, or at least the 1987 modification, to be repealed, or otherwise make sure all states, or at least the voter states, are made into voter ID states.

        • Thanks for telling us that Conservapedia and Politichicks have – finally – noticed this toxic 1982 Consent Decree. Now if only so-called conservative talk radio titans like Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, and Sean Hannity would finally acknowledge and talk about it on their shows. :(

  122. Okay-so what happens if the Republicans intentionally go AGAINST the Consent Decree? What if they tell the whole story to America,using any and all means available to them? Could the Dems (or the Court they own) throw the Republican Party in jail? It just boggles my mind that the Republican Party could be held down by such a threat. Look at the outlandish violations Obama has committed,without even bothering to try to hide them. Could ANYTHING the Republican Party’s done be worse than THAT? Another thing-how many Republicans were involved in the actual offenses that brought this result? Why aren’t THEY,in SPECIFIC accountable?The rest of the Party,the people who did nothing wrong,those who didn’t even know what was happening,are being made to pay for something they were innocent of.
    Sorry,this is really getting to me-if an average American tried to pull something like this,it’d never even make it to Court,let alone win an unjust illegal judgement like this. This Judge should be disbarred and this “agreement” reversed.

  123. Oh, I am so glad that the good Lord answers my prayers – all that I have predicted even prior to the last election is answered in this research piece. The voters’ fraud would steal our election. We would go through motion of voting, but we would never have a real election again unless we do something about the fraud. Thank you so much whoever did this website. I hope whoever did this website watches the professional blogger who leaves opposite messages on all conservative blogs to break the flow of the meaningful dialogues among readers with their irrelevant messages.

  124. This breaks my heart but confirms what I already know. “Concerning the United States, the Lord revealed to his prophets that its greatest threat would be a vast, world-wide secret combination which would not ony threaten the United States but seek to overthrow the freedom of all lands, nations and countries. In connection with the attack on the United States, the Lord told his prophet there would be an attempt to overthrow the country by destroying the Constitution. The Constitution would hang, as it were, by a thread. At that crucial time, the righteous of our country will successfully rally and provide the necessary balance of strength to save the institutions of constitutional government. The prophets in our day have continually warned us of these internal threats…that our greatest threat from Socialistic Communism lies within our country.”

  125. Stated in 1844…There will be two great political parties in this country. One the Republican and the other the Democrat party. These two parties will go to war and out of these two parties will spring another party which will be the Independent American Party! Definitely need to get rid of the two party system!

  126. Thanks Dr. Eowyn, for this deeply researched piece.

    Sometimes a thing happens that is so shocking I can’t look at it until after stepping away for a while. This was the case with the 2012 “Election”. It was just last night, before reading your post, that I decided to abandon the Republican Party. I had heard of the efforts of the old and entrenched republicans to purge their party of the Constitutionalists, TEA Party types, and Christians (I’m in all 3 categories).

    Eowyn, you’ll appreciate the similarity here to Gandalf discovering the corruption of Saruman, and realizing he would have to defeat the white wizard before even thinking about Sauron. We have take to this political fight onto republican turf, and if we succeed, then maybe we can put an end to the colossal voter fraud.

  127. This is interesting… But do not be so naive to think that republicans are not capable of the same sort of deception…. Look up what happened to Michael Connell. I am thoroughly conservative, but more and more I think the parties are illusions to keep the masses at each other while the rui,ing elite go about their business. Thank goodness my trust is in The Lord.

  128. I do not think any one Representative is legally bound by that as that law is meant to end around a free and fair election! Fraud, Cheat and deceive the People, Deceive the Electoral Collage. We have a on going Court case in California because of the rigged votes and voter fraud.

  129. A very simple and FREE method of counting votes from all over this country would be to establish 2 email accounts; one called “ivotedforromney@ladeda.com, and the other called ivotedforobama@i’manidiot.com (ok ok, yahoo or gmail will work too), then advertise those 2 email addresses and let people send an exclamation mark, or a period, or just one letter in the body of the email. Let everyone know that not one single email will be opened, so leave your hate-mail in your head. After 3 months time, the total number of emails will be shown in the counter of the Inbox, and all one has to do is then publish those totals. The only way to be able to confirm that each person sent only one email would obviously be to search for multiples, but who has time for that? One would have to go on the honor system.

    • Normally,I’d be in agreement with you,but with the Government’s current dishonest nature,I truthfully don’t think any form of electronic voting would be tamper-proof enough for something this important. There are several segments of the Election process that ALL have to be corruption-proofed;Campaigning,the Political Parties,Funding,Security of the Voters,Actual Voting,Counting the Ballots,Security of the Ballots,Verifying and Reporting the Results,etc,etc,etc,and of course there’s getting EVERYONE on the same page with a whole new un-tamperable system. I’m pretty positive about 75% of the Repub sector would be on board,possibly 20 % of the Dems would buy in,most of the rest would like it (depending on HOW secure it turned out to be),then there’s working out all the bugs before putting it in action,so as to not have an Obamacare. It’s far easier to put it on paper than it is to make it fly in real time. I think the results would be well worthwhile though. An added benefit is that making the entire Campaign/Voting process beyond Corruption would by nature force other “un-corruptions” of other segments of the Government,as corruption would be awkward to use in a realm where it’s not tolerated,serves no purpose and isn’t welcome by others involved. The actual good,honest,right-thinking,patriotic people in the political arena (and I KNOW there are a good number of them out there) would be inclined,and expected,to cast out corrupt colleagues,or insure that they “tow the line” or risk reaching the end of their livelihood in an ungraceful manner.

      I need to sleep-I have to drive in 4 hours.

  130. If you are looking for a name for your new Conservative political party, I respectfully suggest: The America First Party.

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  132. “all of which have precincts that inexplicably went 99% for Obama, had voter registrations that exceeded their population, and had experienced problems with voting machines”.
    I have heard this before about the registration exceeding the population, but Snopes shows this to be false……and I looked at their source and it appears correct

  133. If the Republican Party can not bring suit of fraud….why not the AMERICAN PEOPLE?

  134. This article answered a lot of questions for me after the election. I thought there would be a firestorm of lawsuits…crickets instead…thank you for writing this. I’m forwarding to my relatives and friends who are like- minded and wondered what the crap happened. Keep up the good work, Semper Fi.

  135. I don’t buy it. They could appeal this until it goes to the supreme court. As a matter of fact, if all else failed, they could appeal to the American people to unite! Every true American would fight this.

  136. Thank you for your post! I am a film maker working to produce a documentary about voter fraud in America called 1 Citizen 1 Vote. I hope you won’t be offended if I leave the donation link here as I can’t make the film until we raise the entire budget of just under $300,000. My writer/director is an award-winning director and we will be sure to include this information in our film as well. Voter fraud is an issue for Americans as a whole, not just conservatives. If we lose the integrity of our voting system, we become a Banana Republic at best and horror show dictatorship at worst. Thank you for shining a light on this issue. I will forward your blog posting as well. http://www.gofundme.com/1citizen1vote

    • I’m so glad someone is actually doing a documentary on the Great Voter Fraud of 2012, and using the information in this post. Please be sure to credit Fellowship of the Minds as one of your sources.

      Good luck, Chayah, with the documentary and the fund-raising! One would think there are many super-wealthy Republicans and Conservatives (not synonymous), for whom $300,000 is a mere pittance.

    • Patrioti1776, Yes it is an outrage. Yes, We the People must demand this ruling be overthrown, but NOT by presenting our demand to any elected servant or any appointed judge, instead by presentation of our case to fellow citizens on a Grand Jury — the fourth branch of government, that can indict the retired judge who “continues” his illegal action, and indict persons of any party who have created or supported the FRAUD of recent elections.
      The election of 2012 was stolen. Look at the report of the U.Chicago affiliated Argonne National Laboratory that in March 2011 prototyped and tested a hacking device that was created with $26 worth of easily available parts, they said could be constructed by an 8th grader, and could alter the electronic voting machine results from a half mile away. I have heard from MANY people that is what happened to them.

  137. This is an outrage!!! We The People must demand that this ruling be overthrown. Never mind the miscreant who keeps coming back to continue this outrage, This must be brought up to The Supreme Court of the United States and overturn this fraudulent election and arrest all those responsible for the voter fraud that took place.

  138. I have sent emails to Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, and Glen Beck. I do not know if they will be read, or if I will even receive a response, but I believe if each and everyone of us does the same, and they are inundated with emails asking why this story has not been discussed on every Conservative National Radio show across the country, I do believe it will make a big difference and get their attention! Remember the squeaky wheel gets the oil! We have to learn to squaek very, very loudly! ;)

  139. This judge who comes back one day a year? I had read about that or saw it on TV years ago, and that said the same thing — comes in one time a year to screw the entire U.S. There is no doubt that Obama is a Communist. Read any textbook on world government in the 20th century.

    I also read about the R / D voter lawsuit when it happened, and what the decision was.

    • I don’t know which is worse! The Republican Party agreeing to sign such a contemptable statement in the first place – or following up with being so lamb as to show respect by cowering before such a corrupt contrivance by a Tammany Hall bought-off judge.

      • I wonder what the Dems would do if we put the whole truth out there and LOUDLY called them on their voting fraud,case after case. What’s the worst they could do? Making the whole ugly mess completely public would pretty much kill their game,wouldn’t it?

  140. So let’s just “put the whole truth out there”! The RNC should, graciously, disband itself and “help US” form a “new” party – -whether we call it “New American Party”, “The American Tea Party”; or whatever, that way, the RNC label and restrictions would not apply! Their first act should be to encourage the re-establishment of a “Committee on Un-American Activities”! Bring in for questioning debevois, greenaway and ALL DNC officials; without a doubt, they could all be arrested and charged with collusion in vote fraud AND “un-American” activities, since they probably ALL belong to CPUSA, or the “new (communist) party”! Then set about “enforcing” legal voter requirements! Any current Republican Congress people, who choose to remain in politics, would have to declare themselves members of whatever “new party” we decide to build!

    • That sounds workable. The problem I forsee is that the huge majority of ‘em don’t want to do anything that’ll mess up their “Status Quo”. They seem perfectly happy to do the “go along to get along” as long as they still get their paychecks. If we just had about a dozen Republicans who had the balls to do it,we could still take this to the people,and I think,by telling the whole story of what the Republicans of the PAST,and we must emphasize PAST,did,and how THEY made a deal with the devil to save their own bacon,THEN show in DETAIL what the Democrats have been doing SINCE then,we MIGHT just get a chance to clear this up without having to start all over. As soon as confession was over,we’d commence the “Committee on Un-American Activities”,and see if the Court’s ruling could be struck down. Might be worth filing criminal charges against the alleged Judge who’s been keeping this farce alive,too.

  141. truckjunkie – Don’t know what state your from; if you have a Congressperson with “cojones”, start with him/her! I do believe we have more than a dozen, who would be willing, starting with Michele Bachmann – -she seems to have more than most! In 2014, we would have to vote the rest of them “out”; shut down the RNC, starting now- -give them NO more funding and they would disappear quickly. Just remember, there are two judges involved in this, the original debevoise and the current appeals court judge, greenaway, I believe their names are!

  142. Just ignore the decree. Fight the socialists at every election. If the democrats bring up the decree, hold a press conference and say, straight into the camera, “Which is more important: upholding a decree that allows the democrats to commit vote fraud, or fighting vote fraud to insure electoral integrity?” Make the socialists answer the question. Continue fighting them. If they give a typical democrat non-answer answer, ask the question again. And again. And again. Never stop. If a judge rules against the Republicans, tell him straight to his face it won’t matter. You will not abide by his ruling. Let him hold you in contempt. Ask him, “Do you realize that your consent decree against us is allowing the democrats to show contempt for the electoral process?” Walk out of the court. Refuse to acquiesce to the socialists. Don’t answer any suit brought by the democrats. Let the judge rule against you. Refuse to pay any penalties. Never give an inch.

    • I like your idea, Stranded. Alas, the GOP leadership are spineless gutless wimps.

      • I wouldn’t say they’re spineless (certainly not now, at least). They already were making efforts to make sure CNN and NBC were barred from moderating primary debates for the RNC (largely because they planned to make a Hillary biopic for what was obviously the 2016 elections, although they indicated that they wouldn’t have let them even if they weren’t thanks to some new policies), and besides which, there’s already talk about the Republican-controlled house seriously considering making Impeachment Charges. And considering the Democrats did an emailing campaign explicitly stating that the Republicans, if re-elected to the House, will impeach Obama, its pretty clear the Republicans won’t back out easily (I doubt the Democrats would do an email campaign like that if the RNC were spineless. They certainly didn’t do it with Clinton).

        And either way, all we really need to do is repeal either the 1987 modification or the entire provision itself (and believe me, if we could repeal the 18th Amendment [the prohibition amendment], we most certainly can repeal this provision), and if that doesn’t work, make sure all 50 states plus any new states (or at the very least any swing states) are Voter ID states so that the provision CAN’T be enforced anyways (as it only extends to national elections, not to state or individual communities, and if it can’t enforce Voter ID states due to there being a consequential enforced ban on voter fraud, the law’s effectively useless). That’s the best way to go and the most pragmatic. Avoiding the GOP won’t work because that’s only going to make the DNC even more unchallenged.

  143. So they can jack around with the constitution, but some bogus 30-year-old law can’t be touched??? What a lame excuse.

    • One thing that’s consistently worked AGAINST us is the lack of Conservative news media. Glenn Beck is starting his own TV network,”THE BLAZE” TV. Everyone with a TV program provider needs to contact them and insist they carry “THE BLAZE” TV. (I’d love to see it offered on the bottom end TV packages,since I can barely even afford the $27.00 “Bare Minimum” 13 station pkg.,but that’s not likely to fly.)

      • Speed, there is the Internet! Plenty of conservative sites and blogs. :)

        • Absolutely true-this is where I go for most of my info. But you have to admit,it’d be really good to have more than ONE conservative oriented TV channel to watch;it’d also hopefully get more of the “couch potatoes” involved in the US political world from the RIGHT side.

          • True! – although there is conservative talk radio.

            However, the reality is that “low-information” Americans, aka lazy uninformed Americans, depend mainly on TV for their news.

            I wish some deep-pocket conservatives would invest in a genuinely conservative TV network, even if it’s only cable. Hello, Koch brothers?

            • My dad calls them “no information voters”….sad but true.

            • THAT’S why it’d be worthwhile to help get “THE BLAZE” up-n-running. With Glenn Beck’s involvement,it’d be a good thing. So far,he has seemed to be a good information source. Something I’ve heard a few times from Conservatives is that with only FOX news giving the Conservative take on the news,how do we know exactly how true what we hear is? With TWO Conservative channels we can at least compare coverage to weed out erroneous information and outright lies. (Yes-that even happens on FOX!!)

            • See,the problem is that WE need to be able to speak on THEIR Networks. All these places we go to for our information are great for us,but we REALLY need to be able to speak to THEIR minions,the low information voters,show them what their “higher powers” REALLY think of them,how they are merely “useful idiots” to the puppet-masters in DC. Believe me-these Democratic puppet-masters wouldn’t be NEARLY as formidable without their minions.

  144. Another commenter asks if the American people can bring a suit alleging vote fraud. The problem there is to have a specific entity (person or party) that can show damage and thus has ‘standing’. A suit can be brought by a party not affiliated with the GOP on behalf of their candidate. The problem with this approach is that other parties polled in the single digits or low teens at best; therefore, the judge could simply say, “You had no chance of winning anyway, therefore, you were not damaged.”

    A possible way around this would be if a party brought suit on the basis that they might have qualified for federal matching funds were it not for vote fraud, but they would also have to show that the intent of the fraud was to deny them matching funds. It’s a very neat trap — our system has been used against us, just as Khrushchev and the others promised.

    I agree (having already come to this conclusion for other reasons) that the correct solution is a viable third party. Such a party, if not affiliated with the GOP, could bring suit alleging fraud in 2014 and 2016. But the keyword is ‘viable'; a viable party must field candidates in congressional and gubernatorial races *next year* and allow the presidential candidate to be chosen from among these. Trying to enter the race in 2016 or even 2015 as an unknown quantity will not work; we know this from history. The new party must be built from the ground up so that voters can become acquainted with it, and must articulate clearly a set of core principles if it is to present a workable alternative to *both* Democrats and Republicans.

  145. The issue is far larger than the GOP and voter fraud, as bad as it is. The battle, and the Republic, was already lost (roughly) two or three generations ago when the Right ceded control over the entirety of information flow in this country – print and broadcast media, popular entertainment, and the public and private educational system – essentially without a fight, to the radical Left. (Add more recently to that the fact that hardcore Leftists run Google, Yahoo, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, and virtually every other major player in the Internet) That we are just now realizing how badly we have been overrun it only indicates how much that the Left has been able to get away with thanks to their absolute control over access to information. What to do about it? I am at a loss for suggestions. With no free press, and no real, meaningful access to information by a sadly uninterested American Public, I see no path forward.

  146. The reason there were Black Panthers, etc, at black polling places was as much to intimidate black voters to vote for Obama, as it was to keep an eye on legal voting. Read about a precinct in Detroit that had a little over 3000 registered voters, but aver 6000 showed up at the polls, and were allowed to vote. Obama is as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks ! He gives blacks, and other minorities all the want to get their vote !. It wouldn’t suprise Me if there weren’t a race war before the next election. I guarantee Obama is going to try to run again !

  147. Having worked with both parties I can say I am truly disappointed in each The RNC is not the only committee for Republicans and let me tell you. If this binding consent decree is valid, it wouldn’t make any difference.

    I was recruited by the “Official” (but not published) Democratic Dirty Tricks Committee of the DNC. I quit after learning several things. First, that they weren’t joking about the title. They believe even their own electorate is too stupid to vote and they hire psychologists and practitioners of NLP and sales persuasion, to craft the best lie their followers will buy. If you look closely at Obama, Sanchez, Frank etc. you will see where they have used lies and the law to overturn the will of the people. All that wonderful ideology that I was indoctrinated with, went right out the window. I was considered one of the three percent they considered intelligent enough to vote, On that they were right, I vote conservative.

    Democrats have gotten so bold they have become careless with their lies and I have been nearly apoplectic over gaping holes the Republican leadership (and Fox) fails to exploit. Its a wrestling match where Democrats go for the jugular with a rusty razor blade and Republicans pull out a checker board. RNC has to be bought-off.

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  151. Keep that “Blame the Republicans button” handy democrats & libertarians. Obama is not done yet.

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  153. Catherine Lucas

    Why won’t the conservatives do something about it. I knew deep in my heart something went wrong with the swing states.

  154. For some good news (and believe me, I only just discovered this article and another article today on Conservapedia), Conservapedia reported this article and another article on the same subject on its news section.

    And I strongly suspected that election fraud was involved since at least a month after the election, when the turnouts indicated 0% went for Obama (even the extreme fringes of polling communities do not realistically do 100% or 0% voter turnout for either party), not to mention reports on Breitbart and some other blog. Didn’t expect this to be the reason why no one (not from the GOP, anyways, can’t say I expected the Harry Reid-run Democrats to do anything about it) is doing anything about it, though. I’m not even a member of the GOP, as I’m an independent voter (I did like the GOP at one point on Facebook in 2012, though knowing Facebook, I can’t really “unlike” what I’ve liked). That being said, I do think we should just try to A. get all 50 states to become voter ID states (no need to do so here in Georgia, though. It’s already a voter ID state), B. try to either modify the 1982 provision to make sure that both parties actually make sure to actually enforce voter fraud, regardless of skin color, or if it really can’t be modified, throw out the whole provision so the GOP doesn’t end up having its hands tied behind its back and actually has a chance to fight back (since they are pretty much having their hands tied behind their back, and I’d rather we try to make sure there is a means to untie them, since that would probably be more effective in the long run), and C. probably throw out the appeals judge if he is proven to be unethical (and considering Obama’s hiring policies, there’s more than a chance that his appointee judge has at least some skeletons in his closet), and hire someone who is PROVEN to be very ethical and willing to do the right thing, regardless of party loyalties.

  155. For those of you expecting the Tea Party to Help in Finding Voter Fraud in those Particular Districts, well don’t hold your Breath. Some of these Tea Party Members are apt to falling into the Same Dung Pit as the Republicans find themselves mired in!!
    For all American Loving Patriots that want to Save this Union from itself. We better start Relying on Ourselves, and not ANY Particular Party!! All these Politicians seem to Systematically somehow fall into this Contagious Power Grab that Plagues these People. And instead of doing what is good for Us as a Country. They tend to Rally and do the Age Old Trickery, and Do what is Good for Them to Get them Elected, and therefore in Power of Position within Government!!
    Until we Learn, or Remember that we are a People of all Creeds, Races, Nationalities, and Religions (Certainly excluding the Religions that seek to Destroy us), and become accepting and inclusive of ALL People and their Beliefs. We will Lose this Country to the Ones that is Molding it into what THEY want us to Live in!!
    Some of us have become Not Much better than what we are all Fighting against. We have been unconsciously Indoctrinated into thinking that Our Way is the Best way or The Only Way it should Be!!! And it is one of the Causes for this Whole Nation Slipping away from us. It has Divided us into Groups, Sects, Religions, Colors, Beliefs. Which keeps us from being what we were intended to Be all along since Our Founding…………A Unified American Nation!!!!
    Our Founders Gave us a Republic form of Government. Which Allows us to Do and Be whatever we want in Our Lives!! We were never intended to Think or Behave how Our Government Deems Necessary!! It was to be if Only One Person had a Belief or a Lifestyle, and it didn’t interfere with their Neighbor Physically or Monetarily, then that Person was to be allowed to Follow that Dream!!
    And we have allowed Prying People and Politicians to Pervert Our Laws and Government to suit their Own Needs. And it has allowed a Cancer to Grow on this Whole Nation!! And Now that Cancer is Killing us as a Nation!!
    If we don’t Collectively bring ourselves back to the Basics of Our Founding Principles. Then we might as well Quit the Fight, and Let this Cancer Kill us!!

  156. Maybe independent candidates can stop voter fraud by filing voter fraud charges against democrats or any one else screwing with the american voters to have fair elections.

    • I’d like to think so;my big concern is that this alleged president’s concerted effort to stack the Courts with Judges with wide streaks of Socialism/Communism,so it’d be hard to get a fair,Constitutional ruling.

  157. A thought to expand on my last comment;Remember what has happened EVERY time anyone has brought charges against Obama to challenge his eligibility to run for President,his claim of Citizenship,his parentage,the validity of his Social Security Card(s) or any of his still unseen,unproven probably fictional records to prove who he really is. Ironically,even with documented proof of wrongdoing,they’ve all been summarily thrown out of Court. This tells ME he has placed himself solidly(Though unconstitutionally) ABOVE THE LAW. I really believe our only real option,the only recourse with the power to bring him down,would be the World Court of Justice,but I think I read in their bylaws that they won’t deal in this kind of issues.

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  159. Why isn’t anyone talking about switching away from DEMOCRATIC voter registration to independent, Libertarian, or another non-Dem/Rep party because of this situation?

    • I don’t believe the Democrats will want to tamper with this subject,since they have things pretty good right now. Having their votes split off to the non-Democratic parties would be counter-productive to their agenda.

  160. The RNC may be legally enjoined from preventing voter fraud but this does not apply to independents, tea party or any other citizen groups from conducting their own programs of voter fraud elimination. Where does it say that only the RNC can sue for voter fraud relief?

    • Excellent point,and I think the Tea Party will have enough standing to get some real traction on this in the next few years. They’re getting more credible people running for office,and they’ve improved a LOT in their planning,operation and presentation.People are actually listening and agreeing with what they say.

  161. How can this judgment go on like this? How can it restrain one party from filing a lawsuit against the other party for violating election laws? That’s like telling a child you should not hit another child and allowing the other child to hit him back. It’s absolutely criminal. It’s a judgment against every American citizen and is causing The People to be harmed. Should we not have the right to sue the DNC in every state for the massive fraud? The GOP does not have to do it?

  162. “That’s like telling a child you should not hit another child and allowing the other child to hit him back.”

    The schools are currently doing this.

  163. State parties, Tea Party, etc would not be party to this consent decree – even if all of this is true. Voting fraud is a state issue, traditionally governed by each voting district directed by the state guidelines. Even if there was a RNC consent decree, it would not bind the state parties and individual politicians from protesting fraud. Withdrawing funding from the only party that can fight the liberals? Are you actually democrats in disguise?

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