There Really Are FEMA Camps

If you’re like me, you probably roll your eyes whenever you hear or read some conspiracy theorist going on about the federal government setting up FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency ) camps across the United States.

But I don’t do that any more.

I only just found out a few days ago that more than two years ago (!) on May 21, 2009, in a speech at the National Archives, ironically flanked by copies of the U.S. Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence, Obama declared the need for “a legal basis” to be created for the preventive detention, without trial, of Americans who might commit crimes in the future.

Don’t believe me? Just hear and see for yourself, beginning around the 1:30 mark:

Two weeks ago, on December 1, 2011, the U.S. Senate obligingly provided that very “legal basis” when, by an overwhelming majority bipartisan vote of 93:7, our elected representatives passed a bill that gives the President of the United States the authority to have the military arrest and detain U.S. citizens without charge or trial.

The bill is S. 1867, the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012. Section 1031 of S. 1867 says:

“Congress affirms that the authority of the President [...] includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons [...] any person [...] who planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored those responsible for those attacks [...] who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces. [...] The disposition of a person under the law of war [...] may include [...] Detention under the law of war without trial until the end of the hostilities [...]“

Note that nowhere in Section 1031 are U.S. citizens excluded from the category of “covered persons.” In fact, Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-Calif) — like Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky) and Mark Udall (D-Colo)– had tried to get an amendment into S. 1867 that would “limit the authority of the Armed Forces to detain citizens of the United States under section 1031″, but her proposal was rejected by the Senate 45Y – 55N.

Now that a “legal basis” for the detention without trial of American citizens has been created, the next question is:

Where will they put all those people?

This is where KBR, a top US federal contractor, comes in.

KBR, Inc., formerly called Kellogg Brown & Root, is an engineering, construction and private military contracting company, and the largest non-union construction company in the United States. Formerly a subsidiary of Halliburton, KBR is headquartered in Houston. KBR and its predecessors have won many contracts with the U.S. military, including during World War II, Vietnam War and Operation Iraqi Freedom.

Recently, a 4-page KBR document has surfaced (leaked?) online, which provides the first solid piece of evidence that there really are FEMA camps. The document carries the bland title of “Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirements.” [To read the document in pdf, click here.]

So what’s the project?

This is how KBR describes the project:

“KBR is establishing a National Quick Response Team for our current Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE) work, and for anticipated future contracts. Upon completion of evaluation, certain subcontractors may be invited to establish a Master Services Agreement (MSA) with pre-established lease rates and terms and conditions.”

The KBR document is a solicitation for bids from subcontractors to provide services and supplies for FEMA camps, including:

  • Catering Services
  • Temporary Fencing and Barricades
  • Hand Washing Stations
  • Laundry Services
  • Medical Services
  • Office Trailers / Administration Area
  • Potable Water
  • Power Generation, Fuel Delivery / Supply & Electrical Distribution
  • Refuse Collection
  • Shower and Toilet Units
  • Tentage, Flooring, Electrical & HVAC/ECU
  • Waste Water Removal

The document says “services will be required in each State within each of the five regions of the continental United States.” Each camp is estimated to “range in size from 301 to 2,000 persons for up to 30 days in length.”

Here’s a screen-shot of the map of the five regions from the pdf KBR document:

FEMA camps in 5 U.S. regions

One thing I learnt when I was professionally active in military-strategic matters is that it’s capabilities that matter, not intentions.

That is, when it comes to a potential enemy of the United States, e.g., China, any increase in the quality and quantity of its military hardware and capabilities should be of concern to us, no matter the rhetoric of its government. For today, the regime may have no hostile intent towards us, but that can all change with the wind. When its intent turns malicious, our opponent’s enhanced military capabilities can be used against us.

That is why America’s defense policy must always heed other countries’ capabilities, instead of their intentions.

The same principle applies at home, in our relations with government.

The KBR document lodges its solicitation for subcontractors to provide “services” to FEMA camps in the context of “emergency responses” – whatever that means:

“Establish services listed below within 72 hours for initial set-up and respond within 24 hours for incremental services. This is a CONTINGENCY PROJECT and it should be stressed that lead times will be short with critical requirements due to the nature of emergency responses. Subcontractors must be flexible and able to handle multiple, shifting priorities in an emergency environment. Supply lines needed must be short but not necessarily pre-positioned.”

But once the FEMA camps are in place, as the KBR document describes, “in each State within each of the five regions of the continental United States,” who’s to say the deployment of those same FEMA camps will only be confined to “emergency responses”?

Now we know what Obama meant by those “shovel-ready” projects….

H/t Joseph, Tina, & Steve.

~Eowyn

21 responses to “There Really Are FEMA Camps

  1. As a newly-convinced Friend, I attended Friends South-Easterly Yearly Meeting in 1965 at a camp in Florida north of where I lived in St Petersberg. On the way, the driver asked if we’d like to see moth-balled prison camps. We said of course we would, and so at some point he drove off the highway and unto a gravel single lane road into the wetlands around us. Most of FL is less than 20′ above sea level, so water’s everywhere. After a while we came to a compound, say 12′ high cyclone fence w/razor wire concertinas on top. There were minimal barracks type housing and some outbuildings. The driver said these were to be used in a time of civil conflict or upheavals. Old, old story: all feral gubbmints fear their subjects, and are ready to put away those who dissent! It’s for your own good, of course….

  2. Bravo. They are to be used also in the last days for Christians who won’t take the mark of the anti-christ. Those who will not renounce Jesus as their Savior. Don’t forget. Department of Homeland Security labeled those who are anti-abortion, anti-war, pro-constituion, those who belong to certain political parties such as the Constitution Party, Soldiers returning from Iraq as well as others…possible home grown terrorists. That is something I will never forget! (I am sure I have left out some without meaning to…oh yes, anti-gay)

  3. Someone has to be a devil’s advocate to bring out a good debate. We’re talking about rules of engagement with terrorists.Those citizens who commit treason should forfeit not only their civil rights ,but are subject to execution…without trial if caught in the act. Treason might be defined as an act of war by a citizen and who would have a problem in pro-active defense (i.e. attacking and destroying an enemy combatant) were they to threaten harm….or even passively in the form of support or logistics.Soldiers not in uniform easily identified as declared enemy combatants have not traditionally been accorded the status of POW (prisoner of war) when captured which is the added hazard of being a saboteur/resistance fighter.
    Tyrants always marginalize and vilify their opposition…then condemn them through legislation.

  4. An acquaintance of mine who was in U.S. military intelligence and now is an attorney wrote this in an e-mail about this post:

    “Those of you in intel know we like to look for patterns.

    -2 yrs: President speaks on need for Presidential detention power
    -1 yr: Reports of planning for detention camps surfaces (yes, they could be used to house refugeess in a disaster too….)
    This year: Sections 1031 and 1032 (S1867)

    Patterns do not intel make – but they sure point out unanswered questions that call for assets to be applied.”

  5. Conspiracies have a nasty habit of becoming a real pain in the derriere if allowed to be fulfilled…still, as an eternal optimist, these must be for illegal-aliens, Mooslim extremists, and friends of Barry. On the other hand, my Indian blood is tingling and I suspect the Great White Father is up to no good…again :(

  6. Obama-Care Camps. (O.C.C.)

  7. I find all of this absolutely frightening! I understand, Dan, your desire to be logical and not paranoid. Nevertheless, remember, those of us who are anti-abortion and even Tea Party members, have been called home grown terrorists by Homeland Security. We should ask ourselves, will we be put into these camps for our beliefs? The language used as expained by Eowyn, is very broad and thus, encompassing and dangerous.

  8. I want desperately to categorize this story in the Fruits and Nuts department. But it is very real and very ominous. My only answer is to get right with God, memorize Psalms 23 and 91, keep my head down, and stay watchful.

  9. Anyone else remember the “internment” camps to “protect” people of Asian decent during World War II? That is what this is and as far as I am aware anyone can be subject to being taken to one of these places and then “prolonged detention” kicks in and you could be there for life. Yes, they just passed THAT bill in the Senate today, and the President intends to sign it. Fabulous.

  10. Thank God it doesn’t! That’ s why you’re one of us: true Conservatives prize liberty and the freedom that attends it. In support of this, we use reasoned arguments based on both sound philosophy and logic grounded in real life sentiments, not mere sentimentality. We are patriots, not nationalists; we do not merely tolerate dissent, but rather welcome it as the fire that tests our mettle. This is our essence, which all feral gubbmints fear, for it is a fire that cannot be put out by earthly water: even killing us only makes the rest more determined to first survive, and then succeed.

  11. Impeach this guy so we don’t have to put up with this junk any longer. The moment he is relieved of his duties there will be such rejoicing and the fearful cowardly members of Congress who supported him because they thought they might get an invitation to the next gala ball dinner cocktail party hula hoop bonanza at the White House to rub shoulders with Beyonce and J Zee, won’t be allowed to creep back in again and say they were against all these hideous ideas but they were just at gun point. Really?

    • Impeach Obama? The US Senate is Constitutionally charged with the job of impeachment — and it’s the Senate that voted 93:7 in favor of S. 1867 (the Senate’s version of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012) that will turn America into a police state.

  12. Well, biblically speaking, the LORD always ended up looking for even one person, who would stand up and fight for the truth. With Gideon he started with thousands of troops, but God wanted to get the glory so he told Mr Gideon to tell the ones who were scared to go home, then he did the lapping at the brook test, which reduced his army even more. The sword of the LOrd and Gideon was the cry, and the pitchers uncovered the lamps and the enemy was terrified. In these dark and evil days I just know to stand, once having done all I know to do, and see the salvation of the LORD.
    If he can use a donkey to speak, then certainly God can use a member of Congress, or whoever it takes to get the job done. It’s like the log jam in the river, one log can block everything. We need that pesky log to be pushed to the side……………………………..then things will start flowing again. Irony, paradox, metaphor call it what you will, we have to think outside the box, otherwise we will go down with this dreary lot of pessimists and gloom mongers. Whatever happened to the Joy of the Lord.
    Joy to the World Everybody. Merry Christmas…….peace, goodwill towards men.
    Hosanna in the highest.

  13. All these postings I read bring back a memory of a message old friend known as the birdman left me with a long time ago. He was a known speaker in the 60’s and 70’s for speaking out against the civil right legislations. He agreed with the idea of equal right and that all men are equal, he disagreed with the idea of a government forcing men not to hate. As he said that good always overcomes evil and that time would heal wounds but legislations would keep the wound of anger upfront and the process of healing would take longer through the generations of mankind as history is proving. The message he told me I should keep close to heart and be prepared to defend for my children’s sake was. “The founding fathers of the great experiment drafted up the first two amendments of the constitution with a real easy to understand idea the first amendment right to speak out against anything and everything to takes away our freedoms and liberties and the second right to bear arms so that those who we are speaking out against understand we mean business. Hopefully the men and women of our military are able to understand any orders they are being given and think for themselves knowing that they gave an oath to the constitution and the people of this country and take side with the rights of people not a leader with a bad idea.

  14. thereformed calvinist!!!

    praise the LORD kill me i will not BOW TO THE anti christ !!! or a bunch of luciferians

  15. He who is in me is greater than he who is in the world – We have authority over satan and all his demons, and all woh serve him – in Jesus’ name

  16. They rounded up the Japanese….then I realized….they already had a place to put them….they knew they were going to inter them in those camps before they rounded them up….

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